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View Poll Results: Will the UK disintegrate?
Yes 158 33.47%
No 314 66.53%
Voters: 472. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-07-2019, 11:09 AM
 
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Like leave or remain?

Hmm....
Your confusing it with oversimplification.
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Old 11-07-2019, 11:18 AM
 
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Your confusing it with oversimplification.
Or you're over complicating it.
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Old 11-07-2019, 11:21 AM
 
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Or you're over complicating it.
3 and a half years, atleast 3 different pm's, 2 general elections and the deal to initiate withdrawal isn't even initiated let alone a clear view of how the trade deal is going to pan out.

You got to admit simple that isn't.
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Old 11-07-2019, 12:17 PM
 
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The original votes are still valid. You can't change your mind just because new information comes up that convinces you otherwise.

That's rather like saying you can't reprieve a convicted murderer when subsequently proved innocent.
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Old 11-07-2019, 12:19 PM
 
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Why not start a thread with a poll " Have you changed your mind on Brexit " ?


Simples.

A referendum to decide if we should have another referendum. Yes, if it wasn't so ridiculous it would be a good idea.
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Old 11-07-2019, 01:16 PM
 
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The great thing about the internet is that,like an elephant,it never forgets.


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Old 11-07-2019, 03:07 PM
 
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3 and a half years, atleast 3 different pm's, 2 general elections and the deal to initiate withdrawal isn't even initiated let alone a clear view of how the trade deal is going to pan out.

You got to admit simple that isn't.
The goal is real simple.

The complications are that people are trying everything they can to remain while claiming we've left.

And ultimately we were in for 2 years after Article 50 was filed, because that's the process.

I've said this before and it's probably the best way of handling Brexit. Right after we filed, we should have told the EU we were not available for 6-12 months preparing for Brexit, and we'd only discuss terms after we'd squared away no deal.

Instead everyone wet their pants and ran around like chicken littles, that's what caused the complications. A bunch of losers in everything but politics crying in wet diapers because the majority voted for the wrong result.
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Old 11-07-2019, 03:19 PM
 
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The goal is real simple.

I've said this before and it's probably the best way of handling Brexit. Right after we filed, we should have told the EU we were not available for 6-12 months preparing for Brexit, and we'd only discuss terms after we'd squared away no deal.

Instead everyone wet their pants and ran around like chicken littles, that's what caused the complications. A bunch of losers in everything but politics crying in wet diapers because the majority voted for the wrong result.
So the answer was to completely rewrite the EUs internal rules and government didn't have a clue or a plan what to do?

Your not convincing me what simple is.

Also the goal is in no way clear, leaving the EU is mearly an action, what is the desired end result?
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Old 11-07-2019, 04:34 PM
 
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Case: the only way you can be sure the first referendum was right is to have a second referendum to confirm the fact. Otherwise you'll always be left guessing.
A very big difference indeed. The original being built around lies and misinformation and poor defence.
A second vote would rid all complaints from either side with arguments from both sides pretty much in the open if not fully understood.
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Old 11-07-2019, 04:52 PM
 
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A very big difference indeed. The original being built around lies and misinformation and poor defence.
A second vote would rid all complaints from either side with arguments from both sides pretty much in the open if not fully understood.

In a nutshell!
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