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Old 01-04-2013, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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This might help:

Toronto: Most likely no white Xmas, most likely no snow on ground during the Easter weekend (could be earlier than the Easter weekend but I would need Torontonians to recall how early before Easter)
Easter is of dubious relevancy because the date moves from year to year with as much as a month in variance.
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:16 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Eastern Canada experiences more seasonal lag than does Russia. For example, Moscow and Montreal are nearly identical in the early to mid spring but Montreal is noticeably warmer in the fall.
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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^Can you post your data? I doubt Pearson is colder than downtown moscow
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I meant Toronto airport is quite a bit colder than downtown Toronto. I'm sure Toronto in either case would be warmer than Moscow.
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Old 01-04-2013, 07:53 AM
 
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Easter is of dubious relevancy because the date moves from year to year with as much as a month in variance.
I think you are right as Easter is not on a fixed date. Hmm ... I think perhaps no more snow on ground at end of March in Toronto. Does anyone recall for the last 10 years ?
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Old 01-04-2013, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Eastern Canada experiences more seasonal lag than does Russia. For example, Moscow and Montreal are nearly identical in the early to mid spring but Montreal is noticeably warmer in the fall.
Excactly. This is the main advantage in Eastern Canada. Moscow and other inland Russian locations experience no seasonal lag whatsoever. Look at the avg hi in May: 18.6C and in Sep: 15.7C.
But if you compare Edmonton with Moscow, then the Novembers are similar.
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Old 01-04-2013, 02:52 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Excactly. This is the main advantage in Eastern Canada. Moscow and other inland Russian locations experience no seasonal lag whatsoever. Look at the avg hi in May: 18.6C and in Sep: 15.7C.
But if you compare Edmonton with Moscow, then the Novembers are similar.
It's a bit puzzling, though. One would think western Russia is exposed to more oceanic airflows than is eastern Canada. After all, this is the reason Moscow is much warmer than, say, Labrador. On the other hand, Russia isn't as humid and the ground/atmosphere don't contain as much thermal inertia. Not really sure though.
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Old 01-06-2013, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Niagara Falls, ON
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Not taking the quality of living into account, Russia has the edge : besides the Black sea coast, the Caspian sea coast is not bad either (dryer and sunnier), and even the region around Vladiwostok is not that bad (like Toronto), heck , even southern Russia's climate north of Caucasus and East of Ukraine compares favourably to CND!
Isn't Vladiwostok way colder than Toronto or am I missing something?

Humidity in southeast Ukraine does not compare to the great lake regions - the heat index values would be similar
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Niagara Falls, ON
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Toronto (airport) is comparable to Moscow !
Yes, 1971-2000 at Pearson is comparable to 1981-2010 in Moscow
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Old 01-06-2013, 02:20 PM
 
Location: In transition
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Due to political reasons, Russia has many large cities in Siberia.
Look at a place like Norilsk.. at 69N with 135,000 people. Canada has no city of a comparable size with such a harsh climate.

Norilsk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Inuvik is sort of a match but it's a small village of 3,500 people who are mostly First Nations

Inuvik - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


If we compare population centres to population centres then Canada wins but for mildest climates.. which matter to me.. then Russia wins cause it has Sochi. Sochi can beat Victoria/Vancouver any day!
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Old 01-06-2013, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Isn't Vladiwostok way colder than Toronto or am I missing something?

Humidity in southeast Ukraine does not compare to the great lake regions - the heat index values would be similar
Yes, Vladivostok is way colder than Toronto.

Vladivostok average highs and lows
Nov 3C -1C
Dec -5C -9C
Jan -8C -15C
Feb -4C -9C


Toronto average highs and lows
Nov 7C 2C
Dec 2C -4C
Jan -1C -7C
Feb 0C -6C

Vladivostok is colder than even Ottawa
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