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Old 09-06-2016, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Butia and Windmill are my least favorite ranked just above my least fav the sabal palmetto. The other ones I love and also Livistona. Livistona have an amazing bright green color in person.
Windmills are underrated imo. Often planted in an open exposed situation that doesn't suit them at all. They suffer from sun damage and dry ground.

Grow them under the canopy, and they look awesome.

 
Old 09-06-2016, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Windmills are underrated imo. Often planted in an open exposed situation that doesn't suit them at all. They suffer from sun damage and dry ground.

Grow them under the canopy, and they look awesome.

I don't like the ugly fur on the trunk.
 
Old 09-06-2016, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I don't like the ugly fur on the trunk.
It can depend on the local starling population.

In town where there are less starlings, trunks are more likely to be furry, but out of town where starlings are plentiful, they can often be seen plucking the fibre for their nests.

I don't really notice it on younger palms, and tall ones never have fibre on them. They often grow in clumps or are covered in vines, so it's not that easy to find a good example with a clear fibre covered trunk.
 
Old 09-06-2016, 01:22 PM
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Location: Surrey/London
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Grow them under the canopy, and they look awesome.
Like in these parks?





 
Old 09-06-2016, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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I question Mexican Fans in Columbia, when one third of them were killed on the Gulf Coast in 2014. Columbia gets far colder than the Gulf Coast of AL. Maybe in highly protected micro-climates, but you certainly don't see them all over the place. They aren't worth the risk.

I saw one in Augusta, and Augusta is warmer than Columbia. I hope to stop in Columbia this winter and take a look around.
Mexican fan palms are hardy, they grow them on the coast a lot here south of Cape hatteras. There are even some that have been there for decades. Don't believe me ask Smithgn, there are threads in the palm board dedicated to fan palms in Columbia.
 
Old 09-06-2016, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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Butia and Windmill are my least favorite ranked just above my least fav the sabal palmetto. The other ones I love are Livistona. Livistona have an amazing bright green color in person.
I like how the 3 hardiest palms are your least favorite. Coincidentally they are the most common palms in the US south... shocker.
 
Old 09-06-2016, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Lexington, KY
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SC is the palm state , best state flag in the country with and most beautiful city in america in that state. gorgeous architecture
The sabal palm is a beautiful tree, quintessentially southeastern US.
 
Old 09-06-2016, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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I like how the 3 hardiest palms are your least favorite. Coincidentally they are the most common palms in the US south... shocker.

They are only common in the South because of their hardiness. Let me repeat, I strongly dislike a subtropical climate that has a propensity to drop into highly negative winter anomaly temperatures.

I don't like them because as everyone knows, the more tender, the more exotic looking and attractive. That is a fact. They are the least exotic and least attractive to me.

Does the google streetview below look like Pennsylvania or South Carolina? And I'm not doing this to joke, but am being serious. Just look at this streetview and note when it was taken, and ask yourself does this truly look like a subtropical climate.

I'm sorry, but it just does not look subtropical in the least to me. The public plantings down there don't want to risk losing expensive vegetation that is obvious.

My gut tells me a place in China, like Shanghai with 47/36F Jan mean temps would look far more green in winter. Mainly because of the stability.

South Carolina

https://goo.gl/maps/tKb3fxdpHMD2


Shanghai looks like it has more green in winter here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/shangh...-CK3Ds4-CPxYij


https://www.flickr.com/photos/43436659@N04/24012129689/


But some places look dead also:



https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivan_chang/25073627291/
 
Old 09-06-2016, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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To be fair I did some more searching around and found a stretch of roadway with more greenery in winter. But some areas do look very dead in winter.


https://goo.gl/maps/VScb6EeEPC12
 
Old 09-06-2016, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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Your street viewing city locations with deciduous trees planted, no secret in the US we like deciduous trees. Look at more rural settings to get a better idea of what climate allow.
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