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Old 06-17-2014, 02:12 PM
B87
 
Location: Surrey/London
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London 1961-90
Jan: 2.0 / 7.8
Feb: 1.8 / 8.2
Mar: 3.5 / 10.9
Apr: 5.0 / 13.4
May: 8.2 / 17.4
Jun: 11.2 / 20.4
Jul: 13.5 / 23.1
Aug: 13.3 / 22.9
Sep: 11.0 / 19.5
Oct: 7.9 / 15.2
Nov: 4.4 / 10.8
Dec: 3.0 / 8.6


London 1981-10
Jan: 2.3 / 8.1
Feb: 2.1 / 8.4
Mar: 3.9 / 11.3
Apr: 5.5 / 14.2
May: 8.7 / 17.9
Jun: 11.7 / 21.0
Jul: 13.9 / 23.5
Aug: 13.7 / 23.2
Sep: 11.4 / 19.9
Oct: 8.4 / 15.5
Nov: 4.9 / 11.1
Dec: 2.7 / 8.3


London 2080-2110

Jan: 3.8 / 9.6
Feb: 3.6 / 9.4
Mar: 5.9 / 13.3
Apr: 8.0 / 18.2
May: 11.2 / 20.4
Jun: 14.2 / 24.0
Jul: 15.9 / 25.5
Aug: 15.7 / 24.7
Sep: 13.4 / 21.9
Oct: 10.9 / 17.0
Nov: 7.4 / 12.6
Dec: 1.2 / 6.8

February, the warm up from May-June, and December look ridiculous.
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Old 06-17-2014, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Trondheim, Norway - 63 N
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Based on climate models, expecting strongest warming in winter, this might be 2085 - 2114 average for Trondheim (63 N, values are in Celsius):


Month High / Mean / Low

Jan 4.1 / 2.5 / 1
Feb 5 / 3 / 1.2
Mar 7.7 / 5 / 2.6
Apr 12.6 / 8.8 / 5.5
May 15.5 / 12.4 / 9.3
Jun 19 / 15.3 / 11.9
Jul 21.6 / 17.8 / 14.4
Aug 21.1 / 17.1 / 13.9
Sep 16.8 / 13.9 / 10.9
Oct 11.5 / 9 / 6.1
Nov 7.4 / 5.1 / 2.5
Dec 5 / 3 / 1.6

Precipitation: A slight increase is expected, and there will be a shift towards more winter precipitation and slightly less precipitation in early autumn. Annual precipitation has increased to 950 mm. Winter has become the wettest season. Snow is rare, mostly confined to mountains. In the higher mountains, there is still a lot of snow in winter, so hydropower still the dominant power source.

Agriculture benefit from a much longer and warner growing season, but will have to deal with new pests and new species of damaging insects coming from more southern latitudes. Wildfires have become more common, especially in spring.

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Old 06-17-2014, 07:21 PM
 
Location: White House, TN
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Current averages for NASHVILLE, with 2101-2130 averages in parentheses:

J: 8.3 / -2.0 C (9.1 / -0.9 C)
F: 11.0 / -0.2 C (11.8 / 1.0 C)
M: 16.1 / 3.9 C (16.8 / 4.8 C)
A: 21.4 / 8.6 C (22.0 / 9.4 C)
M: 25.7 / 13.8 C (26.2 / 14.7 C)
J: 30.0 / 18.6 C (30.4 / 19.3 C)
J: 31.8 / 20.8 C (32.1 / 21.4 C)
A: 31.7 / 20.2 C (32.1 / 21.0 C)
S: 28.0 / 15.9 C (28.5 / 16.8 C)
O: 22.1 / 9.4 C (22.7 / 10.4 C)
N: 15.7 / 4.1 C (16.4 / 5.2 C)
D: 9.7 / -0.4 C (10.5 / 0.6 C)
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Old 06-17-2014, 07:21 PM
 
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Originally Posted by B87 View Post
London 1961-90
Jan: 2.0 / 7.8
Feb: 1.8 / 8.2
Mar: 3.5 / 10.9
Apr: 5.0 / 13.4
May: 8.2 / 17.4
Jun: 11.2 / 20.4
Jul: 13.5 / 23.1
Aug: 13.3 / 22.9
Sep: 11.0 / 19.5
Oct: 7.9 / 15.2
Nov: 4.4 / 10.8
Dec: 3.0 / 8.6


London 1981-10
Jan: 2.3 / 8.1
Feb: 2.1 / 8.4
Mar: 3.9 / 11.3
Apr: 5.5 / 14.2
May: 8.7 / 17.9
Jun: 11.7 / 21.0
Jul: 13.9 / 23.5
Aug: 13.7 / 23.2
Sep: 11.4 / 19.9
Oct: 8.4 / 15.5
Nov: 4.9 / 11.1
Dec: 2.7 / 8.3


London 2080-2110

Jan: 3.8 / 9.6
Feb: 3.6 / 9.4
Mar: 5.9 / 13.3
Apr: 8.0 / 18.2
May: 11.2 / 20.4
Jun: 14.2 / 24.0
Jul: 15.9 / 25.5
Aug: 15.7 / 24.7
Sep: 13.4 / 21.9
Oct: 10.9 / 17.0
Nov: 7.4 / 12.6
Dec: 1.2 / 6.8

February, the warm up from May-June, and December look ridiculous.



London and the UK in general are going to see the least amount of warming when compared to the rest of Europe. That's obviously because of the Atlantic's influence.



Personally, I think these models are full of crap. I doubt there will be more than an additional 1C rise in mean temps within the next 100 years.

This is absolute bull. Why do they even put this crap out. This is nothing more than alarmism

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Old 06-17-2014, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Finland
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London and the UK in general are going to see the least amount of warming when compared to the rest of Europe. That's obviously because of the Atlantic's influence.
Those B87's averages look indeed very exaggerated. Almost every month is warming up more than here, which seems, well, unlikely.

And yes, Illinois going Texas is nothing but tabloid material.
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:22 PM
 
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And yes, Illinois going Texas is nothing but tabloid material.

People actually buy these model forecast lock stock and barrel....


And that projections map is from the EPA (in charge of regulating basically everything).


Climate Impacts in the Midwest | Climate Change | US EPA

When they put out this kind of horse**** to scare people and force energy suppliers to limit co2 emissions and thus we the consumers will end up paying much higher rates for energy.


At best, Chicago will have a climate shift similar to what Central Illinois is now, by 2100 (so a 150 miles shift south).
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Old 06-17-2014, 09:45 PM
 
Location: White House, TN
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For all we know, we could be in another cool spell in 100 years, much like the 1950s-1980s cool spell. I'd say most likely is MODEST warming (0.5 - 1 C).
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Old 06-17-2014, 11:55 PM
B87
 
Location: Surrey/London
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Those B87's averages look indeed very exaggerated.

They were worked out by multiplying the difference between 81-10 and 61-90 by 5, and then adding it to the 81-10 total, like everybdy else has done. December is colder now than it used to be, which is why it looks ridiculous.
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Old 06-18-2014, 12:56 AM
 
Location: Glendale, Arizona but from norcal
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Originally Posted by chicagogeorge View Post
People actually buy these model forecast lock stock and barrel....


And that projections map is from the EPA (in charge of regulating basically everything).


Climate Impacts in the Midwest | Climate Change | US EPA

When they put out this kind of horse**** to scare people and force energy suppliers to limit co2 emissions and thus we the consumers will end up paying much higher rates for energy.


At best, Chicago will have a climate shift similar to what Central Illinois is now, by 2100 (so a 150 miles shift south).
Yeah that Seems REDICULOUS haha there is no way in hell that the southern part of illinois will become as warm as the gulf coast!!!! I dont think it will warm up more than 2-4 F
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Old 06-18-2014, 05:39 AM
BMI
 
Location: Ontario
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Burlington, ON

Currently...

JAN 0/-8
FEB 1/-7
MAR 6/-3
APR 13/3
MAY 20/8
JUN 25/14
JUL 28/17
AUG 27/16
SEP 22/12
OCT 15/6
NOV 8/1
DEC 3/-4

100 years from now....

JAN 3/-3
FEB 5/-2
MAR 10/2
APR 16/7
MAY 22/12
JUN 26/18
JUL 29/20
AUG 28/20
SEP 24/16
OCT 18/10
NOV 12/5
DEC 6/0

In other words, in 100 years my city will be like NYC....those "future" stats are
current NYC Central Park 1981-2010 normals
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