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Old 01-16-2016, 04:31 PM
 
Location: C: Home R: Monroe CT, Climate:Dfa
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Murderous Mexicans don't account for the lower than average murder rates in South Western US cities - SD, El Paso, Austin and others.

Your racism is evident, though.
If I'm a racist in your eyes I'm guilty as charged then. Blacks are responsible for a lot of murders too but you'll call me racist for that too.

 
Old 01-16-2016, 04:33 PM
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But the correlation but Mexicans and murder rate is relatively weak, unlike blacks.
 
Old 01-16-2016, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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That's a silly way to word to it, most people murdered are murdered by someone in their social circle, not at random though the random ones are make headlines more. If the average Londoner moved to NYC would his chance of being murdered increase by 4 to 5 times? I doubt it.

A few New Years ago, nine people were shot in New York City. None died, as drunk people have bad aim. A couple did die for a car accident (driving drunk on an expressway at 100 mph ends badly). Another drunk guy got angry at the crowd he was with at the bar, left, got into his car and drove into the crowd standing outside the bar. No one died, but several were injured.
Well, statistics don't lie: 4 to 5 times as many people are murdered in New York each year than London. (Same population.)
 
Old 01-16-2016, 04:34 PM
 
Location: York
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I've never heard of anybody getting shot here. Stabbed, yes.
You're probably more likely to die of boredom from the weather than get shot here.
 
Old 01-16-2016, 04:34 PM
 
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But the correlation but Mexicans and murder rate is relatively weak, unlike blacks.
Whatever....
 
Old 01-16-2016, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Finland
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This was the biggest gang war ever carried out here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Nordic_Biker_War
I was too young to remember it clearly, but it was a lot in the news, naturally. The bazooka attacks I remember, as they were so extravagant.
 
Old 01-16-2016, 04:38 PM
 
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Well, statistics don't lie: 4 to 5 times as many people are murdered in New York each year than London. (Same population.)
With most of the deaths being gang related or domestic violence. Parenting needs to be a lot better in this country though.
 
Old 01-16-2016, 04:42 PM
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[/i]Translation:
The general structure of homicides remains unchanged despite an average reduction of crime. The typical Finnish homicide is a drunken brawl in a private flat/house. The weapon is a kitchen knife and the homicide carried out during a weekend. The perpetrator and victim are old acquaintances, middle-aged, living alone, excluded from working life, alcoholic men who have several previous violent crime convictions. At the time of the deed the parties have usually 1-3 per mille of alcohol in their blood.

Could the typical murder be more stereotypical? I hardly believe so. It's like saying that a Northern Irish is a terrorist and the next second he detonates a car bomb. (Came to mind as I read the foreign ministry UK travel warning). It said nothing about Leeds or Scotland, only terrorism and NI.
Very different from American patterns. American murder victims tend to be young. For New York City in 2012, median age of murder victim was 27. Cities with worse gang violence issues likely have an even lower median age. 60% were black, 57% died from a gunshot. Murders are also more frequent on weekend nights and on warmer weather (partly because more people are out):

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloa...n_nyc_2012.pdf
 
Old 01-16-2016, 04:49 PM
 
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I guess I better leave this thread before I get banned.
 
Old 01-16-2016, 04:50 PM
 
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Very different from American patterns. American murder victims tend to be young. For New York City in 2012, median age of murder victim was 27. Cities with worse gang violence issues likely have an even lower median age. 60% were black, 57% died from a gunshot. Murders are also more frequent on weekend nights and on warmer weather (partly because more people are out):

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloa...n_nyc_2012.pdf
Yes, IIRC only a third of all murders are carried out with a firearm. After alcoholics in delirium killling each other the next most common motive is jealousy or other romantic motive, like killing your ex. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sello_mall_shooting
Only 10-15% of murders are related to some kind of criminal activity, and only 1% being murder-robberies.

I looked at your link from SF, and noticed especially in Oakland that a high percentage of the victims were under 20.
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