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Old 06-16-2016, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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you can choose not to get involved in criminal gang activity, but you can not choose not to visit public spaces. therein lies the important difference.
You can choose not to have a gun in the US too, but it doesn't make much difference...

And that still goes to show that the problem is the amount of guns there & how easy the access is to them. Even in London it is rare to get gang related shootings...

 
Old 06-16-2016, 03:20 PM
 
Location: New York
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problem is that they include family murders and gang-related murders in those numbers. that's not what the average joe would think of when he hears the term "mass-shooting". indiscriminate random killings at public places are much rarer. perhaps 10 occurences/year or so. so not that frequent for a country with a population of 320 000 000.
I can assure you they're much more common than that. This country has a serious problem, one that virtually no one in a position of power wants to seriously address. It's always "praying for the victims" or "my thoughts are with the families" but no action, and then the media "forgets" about it until the next tragedy, either that or another mass shooting takes attention away from the previous one.

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I read something the other day after the Orlando shootings that the US has had more mass shootings in the last week than the UK has ever had...
It's disgusting.

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What difference does it make? Still the same number of people are dead...
Right.
 
Old 06-16-2016, 03:22 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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The US has had 133 mass shootings this year alone. That's nearly once a day (we're on day #168 of the year right now).
133?! How is "mass shooting" being defined here?

Did a quick Google search. This site says more than 30 are shot and murdered daily in the US.

USA Gun Violence Statistics | heedinggodscall.org

With this country's large overall population with lots of dangerous inner city areas across the country, that figure seems believable.
 
Old 06-16-2016, 03:27 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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The US has had 133 mass shootings this year alone. That's nearly once a day (we're on day #168 of the year right now).
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Originally Posted by flamingGalah! View Post
In 2015 in the US...

There were 372 mass shootings*, which killed 475 & injured 1,870

There were 64 school shootings

There were a total of 13,286 killed by firearms & 26,819 injured (excluding suicides)

* A mass shooting is is defined as a single shooting incident in which 4 or more people are killed or injured, including the assailant

Guns in the US: The statistics behind the violence - BBC News
Okay.

So a "mass shooting" is defined as 4 or more deaths/injuries in a single shooting event. US averages around 1 a day.
 
Old 06-16-2016, 03:27 PM
 
Location: New York
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Okay.

So a "mass shooting" is defined as 4 or more deaths/injuries in a single shooting event. US averages around 1 a day.
That's pretty significant.
 
Old 06-16-2016, 03:37 PM
 
Location: York
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That's pretty significant.
It's ridiculous. It's the kind of statistic I'd expect in some war torn third world country, but certainly not in apparently the richest and most powerful country in the world.

Land of the free they say.
 
Old 06-16-2016, 03:43 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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3rd world war torn describes many inner city areas in America, which account for much of it.
 
Old 06-16-2016, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Marianne Miettinen, a long-lasting coach of the women's youth national football teams was as an commentator at the France - Romania match. Some forums, the YLE website and social media attacked her. While maybe rightfully criticising Miettinen's articulation, pretty much the main point of the loud majority was that women should stay in the kitchen and who is this b*tch commenting on a men's football match.

And this is coming from the country which ranks at #2 in global gender equality. Sad.
 
Old 06-16-2016, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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3rd world war torn describes many inner city areas in America, which account for much of it.
Not even close. Go to an actual third world country and the "hoods" here will look like a good part of town in comparison.
 
Old 06-16-2016, 06:29 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Not even close. Go to an actual third world country and the "hoods" here will look like a good part of town in comparison.
I have passed through Camden many times (especially by train) -- it's hard to look any worse than that.
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