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The natural range of quercus robur, the European oak was in Oulu at 65N after the last ice age. Today it has a very tough job to survive even planted at that latitude.
There's an cold epoch for you.
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Even the UK once had wild Palms & Cycads...
Cicadetta montana is native to Finland, but is critically endangered. But hey, subtropical, mate!
There used to be Hippos & Elephants in Malta, the key thing here is "used to be"
Even the UK once had wild Palms & Cycads... By the way there are wild parrots in the UK now, does that mean the UK has a sub-tropical climate, or that it is some sort of paradise??
There are naturalised palms and eucalyptus trees in the UK, as well as wild parrots. In fact many of the trees and plants/weeds you see growing in this country are native to places like the Balkans and the Mediterranean.
There are naturalised palms and eucalyptus trees in the UK, as well as wild parrots. In fact many of the trees and plants/weeds you see growing in this country are native to places like the Balkans and the Mediterranean.
Must mean we are according to trolly mctrollface.
Naturalized palms in the UK.... Links? I'm doubting that .
Monk parakeets? We used to have one of those as a pet.
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For a small percentage of the US south, Mr C.E likes to make out the entire US south is like the steaming jungles of Borneo, which is a steaming pile of horse sh*t
I wouldn't say it's a small percentage, at least a third. But I agree he stretches the truth.
Naturalized palms in the UK.... Links? I'm doubting that .
Yep it's true. Trachycarpus fortunei has naturalised in some areas of southern UK, ( as they have in Switzerland too). Cordyline australis (the Caggage "palm" from New Zealand) has too...
Yep it's true. Trachycarpus fortunei has naturalised in some areas of southern UK, ( as they have in Switzerland too). Cordyline australis (the Caggage "palm" from New Zealand) has too...
CIDPs have self seeded here as well. That will only become more common as more people plant them.
Oh, and many people grow passion fruit vines in the garden, must be so subtropical
Yep it's true. Trachycarpus fortunei has naturalised in some areas of southern UK, ( as they have in Switzerland too). Cordyline australis (the Caggage "palm" from New Zealand) has too...
T. fortunei is perfect for the UK. Love seeing them planted in groups.
Yep it's true. Trachycarpus fortunei has naturalised in some areas of southern UK, ( as they have in Switzerland too). Cordyline australis (the Caggage "palm" from New Zealand) has too...
An offspring of an odd planted species is not 'naturalised'. If in Oulu a rabbit catches and drops an acorn of an oak and eventually a tree grows, it doesn't mean that the oak would be naturalised. If the invading species can thrive indefinitely without human involvement, then it's naturalised (which is not the case of oaks in Oulu - too severe cold snaps, too weak summers, too much competition of native species). Trachies would never survive in an English beech forest. Or if a cold epoch arrives they would all be wiped out.
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