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Even Coastal SoCal gets a noticeable difference between winter and summer
San Diego Lindberg:
January 18.4°C/9.4°C
August 24.7°C/19.3°C
Yes, there is a difference in average temperatures, HOWEVER, coastal SoCal can have 90F+ days in January (especially during the drought years of 2013-2015) and days that fail to hit 70F in July (especially that non-summer of 2010). Every single year, the coast has some days in January where the highs are higher than some days in summer. That is what sets it apart from other climates of the similar latitude.
As for the original question, the "true winter" is subjective and in the eyes of the beholder but I would say would at least need a wardrobe difference between seasons which is lacking in coastal California and South Florida outside of cold snaps. San Francisco general wears hoodies year round except for warm spells and Miami generally wears shorts year round except for cold snaps. However, places like Atlanta and Dallas, while lacking regular snow would have reliable wardrobe changes from season to season.
Even under such conditions, I imagine the sun is a bit weaker. There's another difference.
Yeah, the sun from November-January really has nothing on our summer sun. It's still a noticeable presence, but it's not quite the intense, scorching sun we see here in June/July though.
Yes. At least some but doesn't need to be snowy. My personal threshold for a 'true winter' is a mean of <5ºC for that season. And most cities with that average get some snow yearly.
Not really. There's lots of regions in the world where it gets super cold during the winter, but due to dry conditions they don't get much or any snow.
Not really. There's lots of regions in the world where it gets super cold during the winter, but due to dry conditions they don't get much or any snow.
Temperature significant/noticeable difference, daylight variation, lower sun angle, etc. I agree that snow is "wintry", but not necessarily a part of "true" or "defined" winter. There are places (in Antarctica) in which snowfall peaks in the summer, because it's too cold (dry, low dewpoints/absolute humidity) to snow in the winter
Istanbul winters maybe cold for Australian standards, but they aren't cold for many people, including me. 8.5 °C average high means a light cotton long-sleeved T-Shirt is enough for me. I don't feel cold at 8 °C. It just feels a bit cool. I don't consider that as "true winter", because I don't need gloves nor heavy clothes. It's not "too warm" for me because I like those temperatures, but for a cold weather lover I can understand why it would be too warm. It's just not exciting enough.
Except, many people are not you. I am confident to say that most people in the world would consider 8C to be cold (maybe besides Canadians and Russians).
Sure, 8C is not frigid. But it is cool enough for a knit-sweater, gloves and beanies, especially when dry westerlies are whooshing. Heck, my 60 year old grandfather, who visited us from a quasi-continental place like Berlin in the 90s, would be wearing such attire in our 8C nights. A lot us in here do, including many recent refugees from the colder regions of Iraq (the north), Syria and Jordan, which generally have colder winters (with 6C-10C highs) and even receive snowfall. So why would they dress up like that here when the daytime temp is around 13C (much warmer than their native winter weather)?
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Istanbul is warm in the winter.
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Gyumri in Armenia is cold and I think it would be more exciting than Istanbul in winter for a cold weather lover (but I prefer Istanbul because I don't like cold weather). It has an average high of -3.7 °C and that temperature is cold because I need gloves and a jacket to stay outside. And if it's windy even a hat. But not with Istanbul's winter. Gyumri has a true winter.
Jesus Christ, does a winter need to be subfreezing & frigid in order to be "cold"? But hey, whatever floats your boat.
Of course no. Snow is just a feature of winter, but the main characteristic is cool/cold/very cold weather. Winters could also be rainy as well. It all depends on the climate.
I would agree. Snowfall certainly is an icon of winter, but there are plenty of places that have frigid and very dry winters. If you're talking about places that never receives/ has never reliably received snowfall, I would still consider them to have winters whenever I feel I must turn the heat on
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