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You're really just comparing the North Pole in summer, to a high latitude midwinter - I prefer sunny weather and like seasonal change, so I would take the short sunny day, over a day that is 75% cloudy.
If somewhere is dark, you can't record sunshine hours -a bit like how you can't record rainfall, if it isn't raining.
Only a few animals here, and no feed is grown/bought for them.
So you'd take 75% dark over 75% cloudy.
The sunshine recorded isn't switched off at night, just like the rainfall recorder isn't switched when its dry. Perhaps we should record rainfall as a percentage of Cherrapunji's annual total (11,777 mm) the wettest place on Earth? Rainfall totals do not take into account how much dry weather there is, so why sun totals take into account how much cloudy weather there is?
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Who cares if Selsey is not an official station, it is still a very sunny spot compared to the rest of the country and not far off Seattle. Even Shanklin has hours not far off Seattle's.
And Seattle is still a cloudy place compared to most of the US.
Sure -it's sunny in winter, so it's probably going to be sunny year round .... although 100% sunshine, is a bit much. If the second place is 75% cloudy in summer, it's probably a very cloudy climate any time the sun is above the horizon - no amount of hocus pocus, will change that
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The sunshine recorded isn't switched off at night, just like the rainfall recorder isn't switched when its dry. Perhaps we should record rainfall as a percentage of Cherrapunji's annual total (11,777 mm) the wettest place on Earth? Rainfall totals do not take into account how much dry weather there is, so why sun totals take into account how much cloudy weather there is?
You don't need to switch off a sunshine recorder at night, and you don't need to switch off a rainfall recorder when it's not raining.It doesn't matter how you manipulate Cherrapunji's rainfall stats,it won't change anything
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Sure -it's sunny in winter, so it's probably going to be sunny year round .... although 100% sunshine, is a bit much. If the second place is 75% cloudy in summer, it's probably a very cloudy climate any time the sun is above the horizon - no amount of hocus pocus, will change that
You don't need to switch off a sunshine recorder at night, and you don't need to switch off a rainfall recorder when it's not raining. It doesn't matter how you manipulate Cherrapunji's rainfall stats, it won't change anything
Nope, just because a place is 75% cloudy in summer does not make it a cloudy climate, as they are more daylight hours to take the percentage from, and you don't know about the winters.
I doesn't matter how you manipulate a place with 6 hours of daily sunshine, it won't change anything.
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Selsey is the sunniest, it gets 1998 hours of sunshine
No it isn't. Shanklin is. Selsey has NO Met Office recording station & has no sunshine figures. Those you keep persistantly going on about are ESTIMATED gridded data sets. It is NOT official recorded data.
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Who cares if Selsey is not an official station, it is still a very sunny spot compared to the rest of the country and not far off Seattle. Even Shanklin has hours not far off Seattle's.
Everyone on this forum cares, as we only use official & verified climate stats, not guessed or estimated ones...
No it isn't. Shanklin is. Selsey has NO Met Office recording station & has no sunshine figures. Those you keep persistantly going on about are ESTIMATED gridded data sets. It is NOT official recorded data.
Everyone on this forum cares, as we only use official & verified climate stats, not guessed or estimated ones...
It is likely to be the sunniest spot - you could move there and set up a weather station, I bet you'd find it to be the sunniest. It is not unbelievably sunny compared to the others.
Don't try and guess the sun hours for a location far away from any other that has data then.
Nope, just because a place is 75% cloudy in summer does not make it a cloudy climate, as they are more daylight hours to take the percentage from, and you don't know about the winters.
I doesn't matter how you manipulate a place with 6 hours of daily sunshine, it won't change anything.
75% of cloud in a a 24 hour day, certainly makes it a cloudy summer -have you got the stats for this place in the rest of the year?
Who's manipulating stats for the 6 sunny hour day?
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75% of cloud in a 24 hour day, certainly makes it a cloudy summer -have you got the stats for this place in the rest of the year?
Who's manipulating stats for the 6 sunny hour day?
I made up the place, maybe there is somewhere like it that exists
Percent sun does not measure how cloudy the nights are. So you cannot say that a place with 90% sun is a clear climate. You are measuring how cloudy the days are and not the nights.
I made up the place, maybe there is somewhere like it that exists
Percent sun does not measure how cloudy the nights are. So you cannot say that a place with 90% sun is a clear climate. You are measuring how cloudy the days are and not the nights.
That's right - I'm not worried about the nights, just the days.
Percentage of sun isn't a system, it's just a percentage of sunshine when the sun is above the horizon - a simple ratio.
It is likely to be the sunniest spot - you could move there and set up a weather station, I bet you'd find it to be the sunniest. It is not unbelievably sunny compared to the others.
Don't try and guess the sun hours for a location far away from any other that has data then.
I doubt it. Southsea 1919hrs, Bognor 1921hrs, Shanklin 1923hrs. As Selsey is between Southsea & Bognor & Shanklin is further south, Selsey would likely actually be around 1920hrs.
And I'm not the one guessing sun hours for locations am I? But all you need to do is look at actual recorded data & use a bit of common sense...
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But all you need to do is look at actual recorded data & use a bit of common sense...
