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Old 01-08-2018, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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High sunshine is high sunshine, irrespective of the season.

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Old 01-08-2018, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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The UK does not have the mountain ranges that other countries do, therefore relative to the geography of the land, its climate is very variable. Just look at the what the foehn effect does in Scotland. It records some of the lowest and highest UK winter temperatures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboyne#Climate
This climate looks almost exactly the same as Liverpool. Its average highs are literally just 1C colder than Liverpool, despite being quite far away...
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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Yes it is. High sunshine is high sunshine, irrespective of the season.
200 hours a month is not "high sunshine"
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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What? No, this is not how it works. You cannot compare direct sunshine hours from winter (when the days are really short) to summer when the days are very long especially as you go up in latitude
Of course you can. I'm far more concerned about actual hours than % of daylight. As the UK has much more daylight in the summer than in a Mediterranean winter, that means it can record more hours of sunshine and is therefore far superior.
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:57 AM
 
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200 hours a month is not "high sunshine"
Yes it is, imo
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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This climate looks almost exactly the same as Liverpool. Its average highs are literally just 1C colder than Liverpool, despite being quite far away...
Of course you can get climates that are the same one end of the country to the other. On the other hand you can also get climates next to each other that are very different. Also, you are only comparing temps, what about sun and rainfall? The wettest UK climates get 10 times as much rain as the driest. The sunniest climates get over 1000 hours more than the dullest.
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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No it isn't, as daylight varies across the globe so to be consistent, you need to use % of a 24 hour day. % of daylight hours is only useful when the year's daylight is averaged out ie annual totals.

Actual sunshine out of possible sunshine is what percentages reveal -any other method needs context.
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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Actual sunshine out of possible sunshine is what percentages reveal -any other method needs context.
No because 54% for example does not tell you how much sun that actually is. Whereas if you compare actual values, you can easily see the differences. 90% sun could be less than 10%. Annually it actually works because it is out of a possible total of 4000 hours, whereas monthly it is hopeless because you are measuring it out of anything.
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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I would think Nice would be an easy place to enjoy a cup of tea in the sun, during a typical winter day -it's warmer and sunnier than my winter, and it's easy enough to do here.

what is the typical high temp on a winter day where you are? and a key question is would it be typically sunny and would it be windy?

55F with sunshine even with no wind and I wouldn't be in short sleeves even in Feb, March or April when I'm just coming out of a cold winter. I don't think I could ever sit in short sleeves in 55F and I don't know many people who would. You must be pretty cold hardy given the sea temps you have said you find pleasant.

I need 65F with sunshine and no wind to sit in short sleeves outside.
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Of course you can. I'm far more concerned about actual hours than % of daylight. As the UK has much more daylight in the summer than in a Mediterranean winter, that means it can record more hours of sunshine and is therefore far superior.
So Kinlochewe is far superior to Yuma for summer sunshine?
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