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Old 01-08-2018, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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By the way, Shanklin gets 750.9 hours in summer, far more than Malta's winters, which are already very sunny.
And? You are comparing summer to WINTER...
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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Torshavn's summers are sunnier than Istanbul's winters, yes
That doesn't make them sunny. Winters are cloudy almost in any northern climate thanks to the shorter days as well as the weather patterns. Why are we comparing winter sunshine hours to summer sunshine hours btw? It's like saying that Reykjavik is warmer than Atlanta because Reykjavik's summers are warmer than Atlanta's winters. It makes no sense
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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NYC gets 57% possible sunshine. 21% is nowhere near enough for me
That 57% of daylight hours, vs 21% of a 24 hour day. Shanklin, IOW gets 55% sun during daylight hours in July
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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That doesn't make them sunny. Winters are cloudy almost in any northern climate thanks to the shorter days as well as the weather patterns. Why are we comparing winter sunshine hours to summer sunshine hours btw? It's like saying that Reykjavik is warmer than Atlanta because Reykjavik's summers are warmer than Atlanta's winters. It makes no sense
I know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayankhongor

This climate gets very sunny winters at 46°N. We are comparing winter sun to summer sun because if you think that the Mediterranean has sunny winters, then the UK has sunny summers. Just like if you say Atlanta has mild winters, then Reykjavik also has mild summers.
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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And? You are comparing summer to WINTER...
As I said, if you think Malta's winters are sunny, then that automatically makes UK summers sunny
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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You should visit another country seriously. UK climate is the same with a few differences. You make it sound like the UK has the variety the US climates have.
Gasp, how can you say that?! UK has tons of VARIED climates! Manlychesthair gets nice warm 22.3C highs in July, while Westsoutheastsussexshire gets measly 22.2C. And Manlychesthair gets 10 more annual sunshine hours!!! So much VARIETY!
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayankhongor

This climate gets very sunny winters at 46°N. We are comparing winter sun to summer sun because if you think that the Mediterranean has sunny winters, then the UK has sunny summers. Just like if you say Atlanta has mild winters, then Reykjavik also has mild summers.
Not if you consider the hours that the sun spends above the horizon, as the only valid context by which sunshine can be measured.
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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Gasp, how can you say that?! UK has tons of VARIED climates! Manlychesthair gets nice warm 22.3C highs in July, while Westsoutheastsussexshire gets measly 22.2C. And Manlychesthair gets 10 more annual sunshine hours!!! So much VARIETY!
The UK does not have the mountain ranges that other countries do, therefore relative to the geography of the land, its climate is very variable. Just look at the what the foehn effect does in Scotland. It records some of the lowest and highest UK winter temperatures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboyne#Climate
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Bidford-on-Avon, England
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Not if you consider the hours that the sun spends above the horizon, as the only valid context by which sunshine can be measured.
No it isn't, as daylight varies across the globe so to be consistent, you need to use % of a 24 hour day. % of daylight hours is only useful when the year's daylight is averaged out ie annual totals.
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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I know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayankhongor

This climate gets very sunny winters at 46°N. We are comparing winter sun to summer sun because if you think that the Mediterranean has sunny winters, then the UK has sunny summers. Just like if you say Atlanta has mild winters, then Reykjavik also has mild summers.
What? No, this is not how it works. You cannot compare direct sunshine hours from winter (when the days are really short) to summer when the days are very long especially as you go up in latitude
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