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View Poll Results: True winters must have snow?
Yes 72 57.14%
No 54 42.86%
Voters: 126. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-04-2017, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Istanbul, for instance, isn't really snowy in the winter. But it is quite damp and foggy, in contrast to their sunny dry summers. For me, these gloomy conditions alone equal a true winter, and that summer-winter (dry summers, damp winters) contrast also heightens the seasonal differences without the need of snow. Although snow is really "wintry" (there's no argument here), it's not the sole defining factor of winter. But that's just me. What are your thoughts?
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Old 07-04-2017, 12:49 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I don't think so. Winter has a different definition depending on the climate. If it's distinct from summer and the rest of the year, it's winter. Whether it's a place like Seattle having a rainy season, Miami with a dry season, Mecca having a tolerable season, etc.
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Old 07-04-2017, 12:57 AM
 
Location: Lima, Peru
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Of course no. Snow is just a feature of winter, but the main characteristic is cool/cold/very cold weather. Winters could also be rainy as well. It all depends on the climate.
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Old 07-04-2017, 01:51 AM
 
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By my definition, there needs to be a likelihood of at least one snowfall for a region to have a true winter.
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Old 07-04-2017, 03:49 AM
 
Location: London, United Kingdom
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I would say no.

Some parts of the world get dry cold winters like East Asia and hardly any snow falls I believe.

For a place to experience a winter and not just a "cool srason" it must have the potential to feel chilly. Winter precipitation is irelevant to the matter.

My definition of winter would be where you can't wear shorts outside or where temperatures drop below 10c for at least part of the winter.

But I guess this is subjective.
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Old 07-04-2017, 03:50 AM
 
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No. Melbourne is a testament to that.

IMO a "true" winter is anything that is cold, cloudy and drizzly/damp enough to be miserable. Don't need snow for that.

The coldest parts of Antarctic record less snow annually than the UK....
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Old 07-04-2017, 04:10 AM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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No. Melbourne is a testament to that.

IMO a "true" winter is anything that is cold, cloudy and drizzly/damp enough to be miserable. Don't need snow for that.

The coldest parts of Antarctic record less snow annually than the UK....
Snow is not necessarily per se (hello Siberian High) but I still voted yes because I think that if the coldest month's mean is above 0C I don't regard it as a proper winter and more like an extended autumn. Then snow will follow if there is any precipitation.
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Old 07-04-2017, 04:15 AM
 
Location: United Nations
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Winter is the season with the coldest temperature of the year. By saying this, even Miami has a winter, because January is the month with the coldest temperatures of the year. A "true" winters means that we humans consider it cold. Normally I would consider a "true" winter an average high below 0 °C in the coldest month, for example Pierre, South Dakota. But what does that mean? It means that the only civilian settlements that have "true" winters in the Southern Hemisphere are Villa Las Estrellas and Esperanza Base. Outside of Antarctica, there isn't any city that has a "true" winter in the Southern Hemisphere, and I consider that a bit restrictive. But what else should I do? I don't really feel cold until it's below 0 °C. Maybe I can make an exception and consider Río Grande as a "true" winter.
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Old 07-04-2017, 04:24 AM
 
Location: Göle, Turkey
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İstanbul is too warm in winter.
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Old 07-04-2017, 04:30 AM
 
Location: Yorkshire, England
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"Winter" = any time of year that's noticeably colder/gloomier etc than the rest of the year

"True winter" = must have regular lying snow and sub-freezing temperatures

When I live certainly gets winters, but not "true winters" very often. Same kind of thing with summers/true summers.
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