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Here is the way I see it. You don't have to like it, or agree with it. But here it is
McCain - Same shi*, different old conservative white man. Another 4 years years of baby Bush and Cheney.
Obama - New guy who likes change. Just doesn't know what change, or have any idea what he's doing. Just that for some reason he's became very popular within the last year.
If Obama is smart he'll pick Hillary as his running mate. That is the only way he stands a chance to win. Which in that case if he does, he is almost guaranteed to win.
GHO I did hear someone say they'd love to see a mccain/hillary ticket, seeing how they both tend to be moderate and work across party lines better. I think she's better off taking care of #1 at this point, because as vp for either of them, she'll wind up babysitting as they are. Unlikely she'd go republican being dyed in the wool democrat since she was a gleam in daddy's eye. I have little confidence in those arrangements as VP for either candidate. Obama supporters and media have done lots of damage to the party.
I will not soon forget that McCain wants US troops to be in Iraq for the next 100 years. I have a problem with that.
Obama believes the unemployed are bitterly clinging to God and guns. Freedom of religion and right to bear arms are legal here in the USA. Is he planning to rid us of those rights? I have a problem with that.
GHO I did hear someone say they'd love to see a mccain/hillary ticket, seeing how they both tend to be moderate and work across party lines better. I think she's better off taking care of #1 at this point, because as vp for either of them, she'll wind up babysitting as they are. Unlikely she'd go republican being dyed in the wool democrat since she was a gleam in daddy's eye. I have little confidence in those arrangements as VP for either candidate. Obama supporters and media have done lots of damage to the party.
I think our political views align perfectly HarborLady It is rare for me to find people with similar political views to mine on here.
If Obama picks Hillary for his V.P., he will ruin his chance. He's running on "change", and bringing the same ole-same ole back into the whitehouse with Hillary and Bill will only drag him down. He won't choose Hillary. If he picks Hillary, he CAN'T win. I certainly wouldn't vote for him if he chose Hillary. I'd vote for McCain... but if Obama picks someone decent, I'll certainly vote for Obama.
But then, I don't live in WV anymore.
Yeah.... I don't know why people keep shouting out that "dream ticket" idea. It isn't organic chemistry, Obama needs Hillary if he wants to win the office. He may have all these views of change. GREAT! But Hillary has the vision and direction. His "change" will amount to nothing if he doesn't have some insight, vision, and direction.
GHO thought you'd appreciate this circle going on with hillary supporters. Obama better wake up is all I can say. Disgruntled hillary fans just might bring a world of hurt on him if he doesn't deal or they get organized enough as a block of voters. Monday: PUMA Power « The Confluence
Here is the way I see it. You don't have to like it, or agree with it. But here it is
McCain - Same shi*, different old conservative white man. Another 4 years years of baby Bush and Cheney.
Obama - New guy who likes change.
mcCain-old conservative? he is a centrist and not that old. Actually another 4 years of Bush wouldn't be so bad either. What did he do wrong? keep US safe from terrorists since 2001? getting rid of Saddam? cut taxes? i see no problems with president Bush. but i always liked mcCain better and voted for him in 2000 primaries.
Obama..he is a phony. He's making millions and still asking for change
I'm a 22 year Navy man and a Vietnam veteran with the Seabees. I've been shot at and missed and s**t at and hit!! I appreciate and applaud McCains service to our country and that of his sons. That said, I won't be voting for him. I probably would have voted for Hillary but now that the die is cast I have to go with Obama. I'm a little apprehensive about that; however, I'm literally terrified of the thought of "G. W. McCain and more of the same". The old adage, "When you find yourself in a hole.....stop digging!!", has never been more appropriate. We desperately need to get this country back on the tracks and pointed in the right direction. I'm not sure Obama can do that but I know damned well McCain can't (or will not). I only have one vote and I pray I'm giving it to the right man. I'd love to see Hillary as VP with Obama. I believe she would be more involved and swing more weight than ANY previous VP. There's a reason that old girl wears pant suits....it's hard to fight in heels and a tight skirt!!! Semper Fi David!!! We Navy guys don't say it...but we practice it!!! OOOORAH!!!
Welcome Home Navy Vet!!!
My cousin was a 2 tour vet in The RVN. Ran the PT Boats up and down the Delta. Myself, ex-Airborne Army 89Dog EOD. To young for Nam, did my tour in the states with a stint in lovely Beirut and N.Africa.
For me, I to respect McCain's service but in no way could vote Obama. I will probably go for Bob Barr. McCain is bush lite and Obama in my opinion is Marx lite, being Karl Marx. He is a full collectivist / socialist. The most left wing senator by voting record in the Senate. How can anyone be futher left than Pelosi, Reid, and the ultimate scumbag NY's Schumer?
Even today Obama is talking tax hikes, windfall profits, capital gains increases, and even higher gasoline taxes. He touts the middle class, but does he fail to realize that everyone with a 401 has cap gains, his version of middle class is any household that makes 46k per year.
IMO, Obama will bring the US back to Jimmy Carter. Remember those days of double digit unemployment, gas lines, a broken military, hostages, 15% home interest rates, etc.
As much as I feel GWB may be one of the worst we have seen since Carter, I definately feel that Obama will leave America longing for the days of GWB. Leave out his ties with radicals, heck he is even married to one.
Hillary joining his ticket would be a surprise to me. We must remember she is Hillary "Clinton" the couple who only has one thing in mind, pure power, by any means necessary. Though I rarely agree with Hillary as I also believe she is a leftist, but in a national socialist bend, she is by far stupid. I think she knows that with Obama in the White House and the house and senate still controlled by Pelosi and Reid, America will fall in the slippery slope to slop at even a faster pace than it is today. She will not risk her path, nor will she risk a second run in 2012.
Im to the point where I feel both are so bad, I am hoping that if McCain wins the left take the legislature, if Obama wins the GOP take the legislature. At least we will tip toe through the next 4 years as nothing will get passed.
In short, may God help us all. The media propagandist state this is the "most important" election in the last 100 years, to me with Mutt and Jeff this is the "most dangerous" election we have had since we were blessed by LBJ.
[quote=AliceT;4046069]I will not soon forget that McCain wants US troops to be in Iraq for the next 100 years. I have a problem with that.
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Alice, Just remember our history.
Whereever the United States has sent troops since day one, we are still there.
We have troops in the Phillippines, Thailand, and the Caribbean.
We have troops in Germany and Japan
We have troops in N.Africa
We have troops all over the Middle East
We have troops in the old Soviet Republics
We have troops in Kosovo
We have troops in Panama
We have troops in Columbia
We have troops in Pakistan
heck, we even have troops in England.
And best of all, we have troops where you don't even know we have troops (been there as I'm sure many of my fellow vets have been too. At one point I was in Chad, yes Chad) Sorry, cannot stop. We didn't even know we had troops in Somalia until the last leader abandonded our Rangers in Mogadishu in 93. That was just after the last leader ignored the first attack on the World Trade Centers. Something for the Hillary fans as a memory jog.
Don't care if it is Obama and his rhetoric or McCain and his 100 year comment. We will have troops in Iraq and the Persian Gulf area for many many decades to come
Though I am not a McCain fan, I trust his service background much better than Obama who loathes the military much more than Wild Bill ever did.
georgia, about the only thing I can agree with you on is we currently have tweedle dee and tweedle dumber controling this next election. Sorting out which is which seems pointless to me when both offer an equally bleak future. I'm hoping something miraculous will happen between now and november.
As for WTC- everybody's hero- Rudy- decided, along with 2 term republican gov @ the time, that emergency headquarters for all of NYC should be in WTC even after 1st attack. think again who you blame, there's plenty to share all around, and repubs are not the heros some would have everyone believe. Bush approval ratings indicate it doesn't matter what the media wants everyone to believe. Big al- you can have him all to yourself! lol
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It is rare for me to find people with similar political views to mine on here.
