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Old 09-05-2011, 08:56 PM
 
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My response is in purple...

Comment about IQ: IQ & Research... ditto alot of crap; always has been; always will

It is easy to say research is crap, but it is more scientific to counter something with some proof.

 
Old 09-05-2011, 09:00 PM
 
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Welll, the first problem is, who told the truth on their resume anyway?
 
Old 09-05-2011, 09:06 PM
 
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Welll, the first problem is, who told the truth on their resume anyway?
huh?
 
Old 09-05-2011, 09:21 PM
 
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It is easy to say research is crap, but it is more scientific to counter something with some proof.
If research does not have a large sample ( i.e 10,000+ in the sample for research; not 1,000) it is not representative of the entire group. Research I have read medical research papers having 300 or lets say a 1000 people as the sample with 50% dropping out leaving 150 to 500 as the sample; that is NOT a good representation of the whole would you agree? Also wait a couple of years and the research done now will be inaccurate. They what can't be done now; will be done later. What they say is fact now will be proven wrong later...it's a given
 
Old 09-05-2011, 09:22 PM
 
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It is easy to say research is crap, but it is more scientific to counter something with some proof.
i could come up with any study i wanted, did research, rubber stamped it and passed it off as legit.

does that make it so?

the methodology used in the bell curve example is flawed in its premise anyways.

i know white nationalists love the bell curve crap. just a flimsy excuse of racial science to fit an agenda.

i have no time or interest in that, and am not gullible or naive enough to fall for it.
 
Old 09-05-2011, 09:25 PM
 
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i could come up with any study i wanted, did research, rubber stamped it and passed it off as legit.

does that make it so?

the methodology used in the bell curve example is flawed in its premise anyways.

i know white nationalists love the bell curve crap. just a flimsy excuse of racial science to fit an agenda.

i have no time or interest in that, and am not gullible or naive enough to fall for it.
A good example of this is the drugs passed by the FDA which supposedly require extensive research and developement before approval and several years later taken off the market because it injuried or diseased 1 million people. That is from POOR research techniques OR they are trying to kill people off.

Well, gotta go; have to get my rest so I can go to WORK
 
Old 09-06-2011, 12:49 AM
 
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I think that you all should read this book. It will explain why many Black men are the way they are. It starts in school when they are children.

Amazon.com: Kill Them Before They Grow: Misdiagnosis of African American Boys in American Classrooms (9780913543542): Michael Porter: Books

I used to say that we African Americans should just get over it and move on, but white supremacy has not moved on. The School system is not designed to educate black people. The only time they mention black people in school is when they talk about slavery. All we hear about in school is how great Europeans are, and how blacks never accomplished anything and were were running around Africa with spears until they brought us here. If they taught the opposite, that Europeans did not not contribute to society, and the africans were superior, then white people would act just like many blacks do.

My whole point is that it is obvious that the social conditions we live in has caused many of us to act a certain way. We have been severely miseducated. Just look at the black people who are recent immigrants, they have not been indoctrinated with a felling of inferiority or purposely had their family structure by slavery which till affects us today (read the willie lynch letter). So to say that there is something inherently wrong with African American people is BS.

As for the reasons why small businesses do not hire black people, that's because black people don't make them. Blacks will go shop at the korean, Indian and middle eastern stores even though they don't hire blacks. If black people were to stop supporting them and control the businesses in their own neighborhoods (like every other race does) then there would be less of a job problem in the black community. The following book is a good read on the subject, especially for those who are black and for those who do not think that the behaviors of blacks were and are being influenced by white supremacist in America today.


Amazon.com: The Mis-Education of the Negro (9781453697238): Carter Godwin Woodson: Books
 
Old 09-06-2011, 07:10 AM
 
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I think that you all should read this book. It will explain why many Black men are the way they are. It starts in school when they are children.

Amazon.com: Kill Them Before They Grow: Misdiagnosis of African American Boys in American Classrooms (9780913543542): Michael Porter: Books

I used to say that we African Americans should just get over it and move on, but white supremacy has not moved on. The School system is not designed to educate black people. The only time they mention black people in school is when they talk about slavery. All we hear about in school is how great Europeans are, and how blacks never accomplished anything and were were running around Africa with spears until they brought us here. If they taught the opposite, that Europeans did not not contribute to society, and the africans were superior, then white people would act just like many blacks do.

My whole point is that it is obvious that the social conditions we live in has caused many of us to act a certain way. We have been severely miseducated. Just look at the black people who are recent immigrants, they have not been indoctrinated with a felling of inferiority or purposely had their family structure by slavery which till affects us today (read the willie lynch letter). So to say that there is something inherently wrong with African American people is BS.

As for the reasons why small businesses do not hire black people, that's because black people don't make them. Blacks will go shop at the korean, Indian and middle eastern stores even though they don't hire blacks. If black people were to stop supporting them and control the businesses in their own neighborhoods (like every other race does) then there would be less of a job problem in the black community. The following book is a good read on the subject, especially for those who are black and for those who do not think that the behaviors of blacks were and are being influenced by white supremacist in America today.


Amazon.com: The Mis-Education of the Negro (9781453697238): Carter Godwin Woodson: Books
Good points. ALL education is in America is about programming people to be what they want thats why it is falling behind while other nations are surpassing us. "Whites" have disgraced every race for their personal benefit. Mexicans, they called *******s; Indians, which they killed and forced off THEIR land, Asian by calling them Chanks and putting them in prison after the bombing of Pearl Harbor; Middle Easterners by calling them Sand N***ers and the Jews because God selected them. BUT the is SOMETHING about Blacks that bothers them.

There is over 1000 people watching/participating in this thread and what I am about to say will surprise everyone but IF you REALLY THINK ABOUT IT your would have to say this is true about Blacks. Now I know this will be removed because this will reveal the secret of this conspiracy. I will list them, here goes... Blacks are...

1. Witty and comical. Most of your favorite comedians were...you guessed it...Blacks. Blacks can take a bad situation in their lives and turn it into the funniest jokes. Whites will cry in the beer, need an antidepressant or commit sucide, taking the whole family with them.

2. Very discerning. People can come up to you and tell you a bunch of BS and within 30 seconds you have figured it out that it was... BS. Whites don't like that about you; your to quick to figure things out...they can't have THAT since they are always trying to figure a way out of real work...they are LAZY.
But what I have noticed is that you (black males, NOT females) are lossing this God given ability. That's because you have been brainwashed or you don't use it much..don't use it; you lose it

3.Creative and Ingenious. Blacks created the cottin gin, crop rotation and KFC but whites manipulated it from Blacks. Whites said you could never play tennis...wrong; you could never play golf...wrong again, you could never do ballet ...oops wrong still again. Hell, one day I was watching the Purnia Dog Challenge and was wondering why I never saw a Black man participate in this. Then low and behold and Black man DID come out to perform with his herding dog. THIS was a SIGHT to SEE. The dog did everything but do cart wheels, round offs and backflips (but from what I remember I think the dog did do backflips). As the finale the Black man held his arms as if he was carrying something and the dog took a running leap RIGHT INTO HIS ARMS. This black man got a STANDING OVATION. Well... as for the white guys, the cameraman did a sweep of their faces as they stood in TOTAL SHOCK...mouths open, frozen in time. I was ROFL and pointing at the TV. I hadn't seen the Purnia Dog Challenge since but I don't watch TV much either.

4. Physically and Mentally Strong. Your bodies can withstand hard labor and distance endurance WHEN you get it in shape which only take Black 1/4 of the time to do so compared to whites. Blacks really don't need steroids if you ask me. You rarely get sick IF you eat right and get off the sugar, salt, fats alcohol and drugs. Even the females are strong. White women spend BIG money to get darker skin, larger lips and bigger butts....like BLACK women. For Blacks... it's natural.
You discipline your children with just a stern look you don't take crap off your children like whites. You can even look at a stranger's kid acting bad and that child will stop the behavior; now that is incredibe to me. You have the ability to stay focused on a task IF you want to. You rarely have all those mental illnesses like whites have. Most medications they are developing are for most WHITE MEN; not any other races, not even for white women..they have most of these problems not other races esp blacks don't need all those meds.

5. Very Intelligent. But this is where whites got you!!!!! You have been BRAINWASHED in THINKING you are NOT smart. They grade you lower than your whites conterparts, criticize your skills and abilities to learn, they tell you are NOT quite good enough. This LIE has slowed you down because the other characteristics they can't take from you

Now put yourself in the white man's shoes. If a Black man/woman already has ALL of these attributes, that would be a DANGEROUS person to reckon with, wouldn't you think????? The ONLY thing they have on you is making you think you are dumb; that's it. I was watching a program where a young white man said that they were AFRAID that blacks would do to THEM what they had done to the blacks. KEYWORD is AFRAID, they are afraid of you. I even heard an elderly white woman say a similar statement many years ago...THEY ARE AFRAID OF YOU. There you have it... I'm done.

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Old 09-06-2011, 08:29 AM
 
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When all the blacks stuck together, and for the first time for many of them went out and voted for Obama for no other reason but because he was black, that was okay. The difference between the blacks that voted and the white people that voted for him was that the white people weren't looking at the color of his skin. I thought that would be the end of the blacks crying that they are discriminated against.
Why do blacks have a problem because small businesses won't hire them? Why is it wrong if the white race sticks together and takes care of their own? Blacks say WE are prejudice....I feel it's the other way around.
Like someone else said in a past post, business owners don't want to hire blacks because once they are hired, you are stuck with them even if they are not suited for the job. I supervised two black women. One was extremely lazy and didn't do anything all day. The other one refused to do anything she was asked and was extremely prejudice. There was not one thing the boss could do because she didn't want to have a discrimination charge against her. So what it came down to is the white employees had to do more. The white women were not treated equally. Guys would be hired for full time positions just because of the color of their skin. The black employees would cry discrimination if one of their own wasn't given a permanent position in a high paying job.
I know it sounds like I am prejudice but I'm not. I have long time black friends and the last thing we talk about is the color of our skin. Blacks refuse to believe that they are not hired because of something they brought on themselves.
 
Old 09-06-2011, 08:55 AM
 
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Good points. ALL education is in America is about programming people to be what they want thats why it is falling behind while other nations are surpassing us. "Whites" have disgraced every race for their personal benefit. Mexicans, they called *******s; Indians, which they killed and forced off THEIR land, Asian by calling them Chanks and putting them in prison after the bombing of Pearl Harbor; Middle Easterners by calling them Sand N***ers and the Jews because God selected them. BUT the is SOMETHING about Blacks that bothers them.

There is over 1000 people watching/participating in this thread and what I am about to say will surprise everyone but IF you REALLY THINK ABOUT IT your would have to say this is true about Blacks. Now I know this will be removed because this will reveal the secret of this conspiracy. I will list them, here goes... Blacks are...

1. Witty and comical. Most of your favorite comedians were...you guessed it...Blacks. Blacks can take a bad situation in their lives and turn it into the funniest jokes. Whites will cry in the beer, need an antidepressant or commit sucide, taking the whole family with them.

2. Very discerning. People can come up to you and tell you a bunch a BS and within 30 seconds you have figured it out that it was... BS. Whites don't like that about you; your to quick to figure things out...they can't have THAT since they are always trying to figure a way out of real work...they are LAZY.
But what I have noticed is that you (black males, NOT females) are lossing this God given ability. That's because you have been brainwashed.

3.Creative and Ingenious. Blacks created the cottin gin, crop rotation and KFC but whites manipulated it from Blacks. Whites said you could never play tennis...wrong; you could never play golf...wrong again, you could never do ballet ...oops wrong still again. Hell, one day I was watching the Purnia Dog Challenge and was wondering why I never saw a Black man participate in this. Then low and behold and Black man DID come out to perform with his herding dog. THIS was a SIGHT to SEE. The dog did everything but do cart wheels, round offs and backflips (but from what I remember I think the dog did do backflips). As the finale the Black man held his arms as if he was carrying something and the dog took a running leap RIGHT INTO HIS ARMS. This black man got a STANDING OVATION. Well... as for the white guys, the cameraman did a sweep of their faces as they stood in TOTAL SHOCK...mouths open, frozen in time. I was ROFL and pointing at the TV. I hadn't seen the Purnia Dog Challenge since but I don't watch TV much either.

4. Physically and Mentally Strong. Your bodies can withstand hard labor and distance endurance WHEN you get it in shape which only take Black 1/4 of the time to do so compared to whites. Blacks really don't need steroids if you ask me. You rarely get sick IF you eat right and get off the sugar, salt, fats alcohol and drugs. Even the females are strong. White women spend BIG money to get darker skin, larger lips and bigger butts....like BLACK women. For Blacks... it's natural.
You discipline your children with just a stern look you don't take crap off your children like whites. You have the ability to stay focused on a task IF you want to. You rarely have all those mental illnesses like whites have.

5. Very Intelligent. But this is where whites got you!!!!! You have been BRAINWASHED in THINKING you are NOT smart. They grade you lower than your whites conterparts, criticize your skills and abilities to learn, they tell you are NOT quite good enough. This LIE has slowed you down because the other characteristics they can't take from you

Now put yourself in the white man's shoes. If a Black man/woman already has ALL of these attributes, that would be a DANGEROUS person to reckon with, wouldn't you think????? The ONLY thing they have on you is making you think you are dumb; that's it. I was watching a program where a young white man said that they were AFRAID that blacks would do to THEM what they had done to the blacks. KEYWORD is AFRAID, they are afraid of you. I even heard an elderly white woman say a similar statement many years ago...THEY ARE AFRAID OF YOU. There you have it... I'm done.
This is why blacks are behind. I am no longer convinced it has much to do with racism or discrimination or "fear" as you've suggested. It has largely to do with wanting to play the victim. When blacks look at percieved inadequacies within their race, instead of taking responsibility for them, the problems are deflected and excuses developed. It's always easier to lay blame on someone else, and in this case, much easier for blacks to blame whites because of such an unsavory and not too distant past. But, even in light of the significant progress made through the civil rights movement, there are unfortunately several blacks who would want you to believe that almost no progress has been made at all, and that the same degree of racism and discrimination is alive and at work today.

The truth is obvious, and this obvious truth is that, although racism and discrimination have not been completely erradicated, they don't affects blacks (on the whole) not even close to as much as they did 40+ years ago. And with the age of the civil rights movement fading further into the horizon, it will soon be time to begin dealing with the problems that blacks are inflicting on themselves, such as anti-intellectualism, fatherless households, etc., holding ourselves accountable without turning to an expired race card. We're pretty much at the point where no one is interested in the excuses anymore. I certainly can't believe that in a day where there are black billionaires, CEO's, numerous thriving black middle and upper middle class communities, even a President, some of us would still rather regurgitate sentiments that were valid during the social climate of 1965 but much less now, because it is so much easier than thinking that we might actually be responsible for most of our own issues today. It's not easy dealing with having the crutch swept from under you.

Last edited by Professor Griff; 09-06-2011 at 09:25 AM..
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