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Old 09-05-2011, 11:20 AM
 
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The big reason black females are getting further now is because of their sexual appeal, not necessarily because they're more experienced/qualified than black males. The only thing a man loves more than walking into a business to be greeted with a blonde fashion model is to be greeted with a Nubian Queen.
This is a bunch of hogwash. The sales manager I worked with at a larger firm was a black woman and highly competent and she was the best person for the job due to her drive, great experience, attitude and work ethic. She was one smart broad.

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Catch-22.

In order for blacks to start a business they first need the capital, and that's opens a whole new can of worms (where are they going to get the money?).

And then who's going to support them if everyone in the black community is struggling to find stable/good paying jobs? And in order for jobs to be created there must be demand first.

Look for further than Detroit to see where I'm coming from.
What? You want someone to hold your hand in the process? This is exactly what I figured you'd come back with. With a little knowledge and drive to really want it, you will find the money as there are a lot of minority business loans and grants out there for the taking, including for women such as myself. You can start with the SBA. I write grants for minority business start ups all the time. You wouldn't believe the money that is available.

Were you aware that any government bid for contract gives minority owned business a 10 percent or more reduction in their bid amounts for comparison purposes? Thereby assisting in making minority owned business more competitive.

There's a ton of stuff like this out there for the taking and that's just two examples.

 
Old 09-05-2011, 11:37 AM
 
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This is a bunch of hogwash. The sales manager I worked with at a larger firm was a black woman and highly competent and she was the best person for the job due to her drive, great experience, attitude and work ethic. She was one smart broad.

What? You want someone to hold your hand in the process? This is exactly what I figured you'd come back with. With a little knowledge and drive to really want it, you will find the money as there are a lot of minority business loans and grants out there for the taking, including for women such as myself. You can start with the SBA. I write grants for minority business start ups all the time. You wouldn't believe the money that is available.

Were you aware that any government bid for contract gives minority owned business a 10 percent or more reduction in their bid amounts for comparison purposes? Thereby assisting in making minority owned business more competitive.

There's a ton of stuff like this out there for the taking and that's just two examples.
What you're highlighting here is that it's far easier to come up with simpleton arguments (women's looks) vs actually getting off a person's rear to do the research, write up the grants, or generally employ a bit of energy.
 
Old 09-05-2011, 11:40 AM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Seriously, I understand this economy is tough for everyone, but it is especially rough for black men of all ages. I know most of you will give excuse after excuse, or say that they do hire minorities. With a rate of close to 20% usemployment, I would like some answers from because this is unacceptable. We can not have most black men relying on major private sector companies for employment. It does begin at the bottombwith small business's so all of you white small business owners be honest why would you not hire a qualified black man to do the job.
Ummm.... What about the small businesses that are owned by black men and women???
 
Old 09-05-2011, 11:42 AM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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What is it with you white people always deflecting the question. It is like you act like racism does not play a role. why do you think unemployment is high in the AA community. Everyone is so afraid to tackle this issue. This is the reason why it's a problem. because peeps like most of you avoid it, thinking everything is ok, when it really isn't.
And why do you immediately jump to the conclusion that the other posters are white?
 
Old 09-05-2011, 11:45 AM
 
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What you're highlighting here is that it's far easier to come up with simpleton arguments (women's looks) vs actually getting off a person's rear to do the research, write up the grants, or generally employ a bit of energy.
Yep. If someone wants to ramble on with excuses they are plentiful in almost any situation.
 
Old 09-05-2011, 11:49 AM
 
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People here obviously don't understand the dynamic of the black community. Have any of you ever operated a business in (or lived in) a black community?

BTW, as for my post about black woman and their sexual appeal, of course it was proven in that other C-D thread in this section about how more employers would be willing to hire attractive woman for jobs that can be much cheaper to train an employee for versus a man.
 
Old 09-05-2011, 11:55 AM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Catch-22.

In order for blacks to start a business they first need the capital, and that's opens a whole new can of worms (where are they going to get the money?).

And then who's going to support them if everyone in the black community is struggling to find stable/good paying jobs? And in order for jobs to be created there must be demand first.

Look for further than Detroit to see where I'm coming from.

BTW, the white community is well aware of those catch-22s, which is why they tend to red-line and blacklist black/miniority communities.
There is a big risk factor in opening up businesses in lower income urban areas due to history of rioting, looting and crime within those cities. Seems that the criminal element ruins the neighborhood for the rest of the law-abiding citizens and makes it more challenging for the communities to get on firmer fiscal ground.
 
Old 09-05-2011, 11:55 AM
 
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People here obviously don't understand the dynamic of the black community. Have any of you ever operated a business in (or lived in) a black community?

BTW, as for my post about black woman and their sexual appeal, of course it was proven in that other C-D thread in this section about how more employers would be willing to hire attractive woman for jobs (that can be much cheaper to train an employee for) versus a man.
A minority owned business does not mean they cater to only the minority community. I found grant money for a Hispanic owned company who did some aspect in the construction field. All his customers were not Hispanic in fact far from it.

I think someone just likes to sit and whine about it. You know my parents didn't pay for me to go to college - I did and it was bust as$ work to get my degree. I didn't just sit on my duff and whine and give up. If you want something bad enough you will find a way to get it, but there are no free rides.
 
Old 09-05-2011, 11:58 AM
 
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There is a big risk factor in opening up businesses in lower income urban areas due to history of rioting, looting and crime within those cities. Seems that the criminal element ruins the neighborhood for the rest of the law-abiding citizens and makes it more challenging for the communities to get on firmer fiscal ground.
A minority owned business does not have to be located in a minority based neighborhood nor cater only to the minority.
 
Old 09-05-2011, 12:04 PM
 
Location: The United States of Amnesia
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I don't know what color your skin is, but lack of basic facility with standard English would lose you a lot of points: "Biasness" (should be "bias") and "there is" instead of "there are".
I work in logistics. I have read emails from top executives/managers/custom brokers/buyers with greater grammatical error. Why would the color of my skin matter?

Look at this job posting and critique it.

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/ofc/2558028391.html (broken link)
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