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Old 09-18-2014, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I can't believe that people actually believe we even have affirmative action for most jobs. And that it was actually helpful for black women.

Honestly, because of the sentiments displayed in this very thread, I did not add a picture to my LinkedIn profile until just a year ago. I've been on LinkedIn for over a decade, but there is still plenty of stereotyping of black women and i did not want to potentially impact my first professional impressions.
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Old 09-18-2014, 10:19 PM
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Black women and black men unemployment rates are equal it seems from the info in the OP.
It also seems maybe black men "took" the jobs from black women?
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Old 09-18-2014, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Native Floridian, USA
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This is spot on. It may not be as blatant as high school but work is definitely cliquey. Also I imagine public sector work is cliquey as well. Not everyone would want a government job (not saying there is anything wrong with them.) There are people in my college circle who probably wouldn't be caught dead working a government job.
LOL. As a former HR manager in the private sector, we would not have been caught dead in a public sector job. We considered it as people who couldn't cut it in the competitive, dog eat dog, private sector went to get jobs. Of course, the public sector is now the new GM retirees. Good benefits, good pensions, can't be fired and didn't work near as hard as we did......boy, did we mess up. lol.
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Old 09-18-2014, 11:31 PM
 
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I can't believe that people actually believe we even have affirmative action for most jobs. And that it was actually helpful for black women.

Honestly, because of the sentiments displayed in this very thread, I did not add a picture to my LinkedIn profile until just a year ago. I've been on LinkedIn for over a decade, but there is still plenty of stereotyping of black women and i did not want to potentially impact my first professional impressions.
I still haven't added a photo to my LinkedIn - my name is racially ambiguous, and I definitely need the interview practice.
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Old 09-18-2014, 11:32 PM
 
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LOL. As a former HR manager in the private sector, we would not have been caught dead in a public sector job. We considered it as people who couldn't cut it in the competitive, dog eat dog, private sector went to get jobs. Of course, the public sector is now the new GM retirees. Good benefits, good pensions, can't be fired and didn't work near as hard as we did......boy, did we mess up. lol.
Public sector pensions are not the sacred cow they once were for many state and municipal workers. Cannot speak for everywhere but here in NYS and a few other areas one knows of at least new hires are often put on a different "Tier" for pension benefits. They will thus contribute more, have a higher retirement age for full benefits, and other changes which equal they will be getting less than "older" workers.

State and local governments are waking up to the fact they cannot keep handing out generous pensions. This is true when many of the local rate payers have nothing nearly equaling. That plus contributions are eating into budgets.
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Old 09-18-2014, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I still haven't added a photo to my LinkedIn - my name is racially ambiguous, and I definitely need the interview practice.
I don't know if there is a correlation, but i started a new job a few weeks ago, a hear after starting my last. And i got way more respjnses this time. No clue if it the economy, picture or a more obvious job title this time around.
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Old 09-19-2014, 05:54 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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I still haven't added a photo to my LinkedIn - my name is racially ambiguous, and I definitely need the interview practice.
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I can't believe that people actually believe we even have affirmative action for most jobs. And that it was actually helpful for black women.

Honestly, because of the sentiments displayed in this very thread, I did not add a picture to my LinkedIn profile until just a year ago. I've been on LinkedIn for over a decade, but there is still plenty of stereotyping of black women and i did not want to potentially impact my first professional impressions.
I realize networking and gaining professional contacts is becoming an increasingly vital element in obtaining a job, or even an interview nowadays, and I see LinkedIn as being an excellent resource to do so. I will be creating a profile soon and never thought of this as being an issue, but reading each of your responses has me a bit worried. Would you recommend not including a profile picture, although my name isn't the most racially ambiguous and may be an indication of my ethnicity anyway?

I will add though that in MY experience I don't feel my race has been a hindrance to me every landing a job, and in fact in the past four years I've landed 5/6 jobs I've interviewed for. (And made it to 3rd round interview of the one I didn't get).

That's not to say I disagree with your statement about stereotypes, in fact, I absolutely do agree that there are still many harmful stereotypes against us black women, and you're right you never know if it'll potentially harm us in the hiring process which is a shame.
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I realize networking and gaining professional contacts is becoming an increasingly vital element in obtaining a job, or even an interview nowadays, and I see LinkedIn as being an excellent resource to do so. I will be creating a profile soon and never thought of this as being an issue, but reading each of your responses has me a bit worried. Would you recommend not including a profile picture, although my name isn't the most racially ambiguous and may be an indication of my ethnicity anyway?

I will add though that in MY experience I don't feel my race has been a hindrance to me every landing a job, and in fact in the past four years I've landed 5/6 jobs I've interviewed for. (And made it to 3rd round interview of the one I didn't get).

That's not to say I disagree with your statement about stereotypes, in fact, I absolutely do agree that there are still many harmful stereotypes against us black women, and you're right you never know if it'll potentially harm us in the hiring process which is a shame.
Definitely create a profile! Like right now.

I work in tech and it is pretty cliquey. It was probably worse when I was younger (in terms of stereotyping) locally, now there are different problems.

My feeling is when I was a junior employee (and tough competition who had better experience) with limited experience I needed to minimize all red flags. Now that I am more experienced that shines through and people are more likely to be over it. I have always had a high conversion rate when I get the interview. Getting past the front door is the hard part.
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Old 09-19-2014, 09:48 AM
 
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I can't believe that people actually believe we even have affirmative action for most jobs. And that it was actually helpful for black women.

Honestly, because of the sentiments displayed in this very thread, I did not add a picture to my LinkedIn profile until just a year ago. I've been on LinkedIn for over a decade, but there is still plenty of stereotyping of black women and i did not want to potentially impact my first professional impressions.
The primary beneficiary of AA is white women
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Old 09-19-2014, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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Basically, the GOP hates everything good for America. That's why they wage war on the government, USPS, and unions. Minorities have always been respresented in larger quantities in the public sector or unionized manufacturing jobs. The Republicans (deemed the party of old, rich white men) want to cut, cut, cut. This disproportionately affects who?
Quit bogarting, man. The rule is puff puff pass, not puff puff puff.
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