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Old 09-20-2014, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Harrisburg, PA
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There's an ongoing sub-discussion about Black women and higher education. STEM majors and for-profit universities and the like...

1) Black women (and men) do not earn degrees in STEM majors because public schools in America have a HUGE disparity in regards to quality; with many African-American students attending segregated schools (not segregated legally...but due to clever re-districting and White flight) where they are not adequately prepared for the rigors of college-level math and science.

2) For-profit universities have a high rate of minority enrollment, but that also have really low graduation rates. So it's not like there are a flood of these graduates...of any race...in the job market.
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Old 09-21-2014, 12:11 AM
 
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There's an ongoing sub-discussion about Black women and higher education. STEM majors and for-profit universities and the like...

1) Black women (and men) do not earn degrees in STEM majors because public schools in America have a HUGE disparity in regards to quality; with many African-American students attending segregated schools (not segregated legally...but due to clever re-districting and White flight) where they are not adequately prepared for the rigors of college-level math and science.

2) For-profit universities have a high rate of minority enrollment, but that also have really low graduation rates. So it's not like there are a flood of these graduates...of any race...in the job market.
At each step higher up, the rate of achievement is even less. It's been called the leaky pipeline. Even if black women do enroll in a STEM major. Many end up changing majors or not graduating at all

They have lower graduation rates than other minority women(non-european foreign students, asian, only beating out hispanic women). Of those STEM graduates, even fewer women opt for the PhD or master's degree.

For the last 10-20 years, the number of black female STEM graduates has been growing significantly though. Within the last 5 years, they have surpassed black men in STEM majors. It hasn't caught up with asian women or other female minority students(predominantly students from China and India listed as non-residents in statistics) , but they are higher than hispanic women.

There is definitely an upward movement and improvement in the number of future black female STEM professionals. The currently enrolled population is higher than ever.
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Old 09-22-2014, 10:29 AM
 
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At each step higher up, the rate of achievement is even less. It's been called the leaky pipeline. Even if black women do enroll in a STEM major. Many end up changing majors or not graduating at all

They have lower graduation rates than other minority women(non-european foreign students, asian, only beating out hispanic women). Of those STEM graduates, even fewer women opt for the PhD or master's degree.

For the last 10-20 years, the number of black female STEM graduates has been growing significantly though. Within the last 5 years, they have surpassed black men in STEM majors. It hasn't caught up with asian women or other female minority students(predominantly students from China and India listed as non-residents in statistics) , but they are higher than hispanic women.

There is definitely an upward movement and improvement in the number of future black female STEM professionals. The currently enrolled population is higher than ever.
But are you even qualified to discuss the low STEM graduation rates of "minority women" when you do not have a degree yourself? Essentially, someone took a chance and hired you. Let's not act as though your certificate is the end all be all, when it's not. Your certificate took you less than 4 months to complete. How many minority people completed the same certificate as you, yet are unemployed.
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Old 09-22-2014, 10:58 AM
 
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How many minority people completed the same certificate as you, yet are unemployed.
Which is the base of the article.

And not every non-black woman have a STEM field degree yet they are employed. But black women aren't getting hired too. And judging by the replies of this thread, its probably is due to the unique form of discrimination black women face.
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Old 09-22-2014, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The thing that Im wondering about is the quality of the University these unemployed but well educated African Americans have attended. We all know the Everest Uni's and Uni of Phoenix etc market unashamedly to the African American community, however these schools are general frowned upon in the business world. Ive talked to many HR reps in both of my Fortune jobs and they've said its standard policy to throw away these applications. Could it be that these well educated AA's just have proportionally higher numbers of for profit degrees in comparison to other races due to the crafty marketing of these "Universities"?
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