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Old 09-26-2016, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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We get that, it is still unproductive which is the problem. It does nothing to change their situation

It's laziness and they gave up on themselves and blame everyone else. It's what kids do, adults get out of bed and go get things done
I know "adults" that just complain rather than be an agent of change. And I'm not talking Millennials here. They may not play Xbox or Playstation, but they just give up and blame others... Everyone has that loser brother/sister, aunt/uncle or cousin.
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Old 09-26-2016, 09:43 PM
 
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We get that, it is still unproductive which is the problem. It does nothing to change their situation

It's laziness and they gave up on themselves and blame everyone else. It's what kids do, adults get out of bed and go get things done
Plenty of people with mental issues, such as depression, who aren't productive are adults.
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Old 09-26-2016, 10:57 PM
 
Location: U.S.A., Earth
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I have worked with hundreds of small business owners in the trades, they all complain about not being able to find dependable help. People in their 20s no longer want to work that hard, despite the fact that within 2 years they would be making well above the median wage. It is not just in Colorado either, I have talked to business owners across the country, I have read articles and studies from across the country, the problem is not lack of jobs, it is that all these kids are being over educated and have now decided they are too good for blue collar work, despite that being where the jobs are and where the most money is now if you are not in IT.
I've definitely met folks who were less than ambitious, or in the other extreme, aiming too high.


However, you gotta admit that when someone gets a law degree, physical science, something medical related, computers, engineering, etc., and then has to take a blue collar job like plumbing, carpentry, road construction... it goes against all of the good planning and hard work that folks at C-D adore (as opposed to the people who never bothered to better themselves in the first place). Plus, being in a higher salary bracket doesn't automatically mean they'll be able to do "lesser work". There's no correlation that mental toughness means you can do physical labor. Doesn't mean those folks are qualified for such work either. It's great that you can do stuff like nursing, and know the regulations behind such work, but that doesn't put you ahead of the other applicant who's done work on homes before, or knows her way around lumber.
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Old 09-27-2016, 08:14 AM
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With the way the workplace is in the private sector today, playing video games sounds more fun. The workplace completely sucks today. Its soul draining and pretty much every place is completely mismanaged.

Work used to be an environment people didn't mind going into before
What kind of made-up fantasy dreamworld are you talking about?
You mean when kids were working dangerous jobs at 10 and 11? When employer-hired thugs would beat and shoot people trying to strike for basic wages? Like when before there was any vacation period, let alone paid vacation? When people worked from dawn until sunset - and then later when the electric light was invented.


yea it was great before.
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Old 09-27-2016, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Ontario, NY
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I'll have to admit the job market is a tough place. And it's true, you could break your butt every day, work all the overtime you can, hustle you butt off and come out no farther ahead then the sorry sap that sits on his butt all day and plays video games.... but the chances of making a better life for yourself are far greater than those that do not try.

I understand the allure of video games, I once took a week off of work and played Everquest 14 hours a day for my entire vacation. But I've never let it get in the way of my job. Never did I call out sick to play video games or stay up so late that I couldn't get wake up the next day for work. Video games is an escape, it's really no different then drinking alcohol or taking drugs to escape. True video games aren't as destructive on your body as drugs, but they do not provide benefits to you either.

Personally I don't care if you waste your life playing video games, when your parents your living with die in the future, you'll end up on the street picking through trash to try to survive and you'll have no one to blame but yourself. Women are not attracted to unemployed bums and those that are eventually get fed up with your lazy BS and kick you to the curb.
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Old 09-27-2016, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Land of Free Johnson-Weld-2016
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...m-for-america/







Very interesting article. One thing I wonder though is why it seems primarily a problem for men and why it seems to be something men are much more likely to fall into than women. Thoughts?
Most western men have better spatial acuity* than most western women. This is based on something I read on the BBC eons ago. There was also an online test, and I totally failed it. Probably from when they used to have to hunt. They are probably just better at video games than we are.

That is a shame. Video games are a colossal waste of time, and it seems that a cool skill like that can be used for something that produces more valuable results. Maybe using a forklift?

* I'm not sure if spatial acuity is the right term, but they are better at seeing 3-d shapes as they move and rotate in space.
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Old 09-27-2016, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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With the way the workplace is in the private sector today, playing video games sounds more fun. The workplace completely sucks today. Its soul draining and pretty much every place is completely mismanaged.
Anyone who would choose to be unemployed so they could play video games rather than seek gainful employment is nothing short of a total loser, IMHO. Good luck getting a GF with an apathetic attitude like that.
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Old 09-27-2016, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, VA, USA
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Very strange. When I was 22 I was on fire for work, production and busting butt and knocking down paychecks with the rest of the guys...Now? Scares me to think we may soon have people doing very little and getting a check from thr state or Fed govt.
Gamers represent a segment of the population that will not be working due to middle class jobs being lost offshore. Think of them doing their patriotic duty by not applying for a job that some more worthy person will get. Think of Gamers as the cost of doing business for NAFTA and the Pacific Treaty (I forget what it is called). It sounds Orwellian, but maybe we have reached the stage in society, where some young men are sacrificed (so to speak) to achieve society's goals. No one should be surprised by this article (I was not), but it saddens me all the same....
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Old 09-27-2016, 05:29 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Anyone who would choose to be unemployed so they could play video games rather than seek gainful employment is nothing short of a total loser, IMHO. Good luck getting a GF with an apathetic attitude like that.
I've never known anyone even close to a situation like this.
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Old 09-27-2016, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Cleverly concealed
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Games, I suppose, are a way to forget your problems, like alcohol or drugs. We tried doing a story on video game obsession last year, but could only find one person who said his inability to stop playing video games affected his work.
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