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Old 11-11-2016, 11:06 PM
 
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"contact vocational rehabilitation and hound them until I find the help I think I need..." Wouldn't they be able to provide professional help if I need anything else?

Sorry, what's the context of your other question?
You need to be involved with a system...you need to get in touch with one of the ASD specialists, and once you are working with her she will help you get vocational counseling and whatever else you need. get in contact with the Alabama Autism society and see what they have in terms of resources, join a support group, immerse yourself in addressing your problems the same way you immerse yourself in your church routine..devote at least as much time to your life here and on earth and not just the one after, and maybe you can be happy in this one, too.

Your little list above comes across to me as a dismissive attempt to say "see?? I am listening, are you happy now?" just to shut us up, but you know as well as we do you are not capable of carrying out that list and no intention of doing so. Some of the items I disagree with in any case, for instance going to the thrift store...I maintain you need help even for simple things like buying clothes and shouldn't be wasting money doing it yourself.

You really need an outline and structure and professional guidance, and someone to both hold your hand and push you out of your comfort zone, in order to do what you need to if you sincerely want your life to get better. There are no short cuts or tips that are going to accomplish this.
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Old 11-11-2016, 11:09 PM
 
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The last person who evaluated me put me on anti-depression medication, and I felt extremely weird. My OCD symptoms were a lot worse with whatever I was taking. I had to stop it. It also made me tired all of the time.
He didn't ask you about anti-depressants, he asked you about drugs for inattention, which are different than drugs for depression, which are different than drugs for OCD. "I tried one thing, but that didn't work so I give up". Great.
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Old 11-11-2016, 11:14 PM
 
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Little noises break my concentration and really aggravate me at times. It might work, but I might just turn it off and go back to doing whatever I was doing if it annoys me too much. I suppose I could try just a weekly alarm, though, to see if it does any good. I might opt for nursery rhymes, classical music, or nature sounds because I prefer soft tones.
The Idea is to BREAK your concentration and remind you that you have to do something NOW. That's what alarms do. It's to keep you from staying in your daydream.

Every time you start your sentence with "I guess" or " I suppose" we know that you have no attention of trying anyone's advice or suggestion. Then you can't understand why you get reprimanded at your job or people get fed up. Don't make changes and you will be stuck in the same rut forever. Keep your blinders on and remain depressed, poor, and unhappy. We know that you can't remove those blinders in order to understand how the real world works on your own. You haven't a clue. I think if you did, you would start to see colors instead of living in black and white. You don't come with an in-house support system like a family so that's an obstacle. But when outside help is available, you won't take it. I am not going to be your enabler.
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Old 11-12-2016, 03:22 AM
 
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You need to be involved with a system...you need to get in touch with one of the ASD specialists, and once you are working with her she will help you get vocational counseling and whatever else you need. get in contact with the Alabama Autism society and see what they have in terms of resources, join a support group, immerse yourself in addressing your problems the same way you immerse yourself in your church routine..devote at least as much time to your life here and on earth and not just the one after, and maybe you can be happy in this one, too.

Your little list above comes across to me as a dismissive attempt to say "see?? I am listening, are you happy now?" just to shut us up, but you know as well as we do you are not capable of carrying out that list and no intention of doing so. Some of the items I disagree with in any case, for instance going to the thrift store...I maintain you need help even for simple things like buying clothes and shouldn't be wasting money doing it yourself.

You really need an outline and structure and professional guidance, and someone to both hold your hand and push you out of your comfort zone, in order to do what you need to if you sincerely want your life to get better. There are no short cuts or tips that are going to accomplish this.
I sent an email to most of the people on that list you provided on my other thread. If I don't get a reply, I'll try to call them. I guess I'll try this and see if it works. I really am already seeing a counselor who specializes in ASD, though, although I'm beginning to think she sees mostly children, not adults. She hasn't offered me just talk therapy, but a lot of our sessions have been mostly talking, perhaps partially because I was afraid to implement her other suggestions, which focused mainly on exposing myself to the negative thoughts to get over the OCD.

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Old 11-12-2016, 03:38 AM
 
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The Idea is to BREAK your concentration and remind you that you have to do something NOW. That's what alarms do. .
The only thing I can do is try it and see how it goes. I have an issue with alarms, usually, though, but that may just be the shrill buzzer. I haven't tried it with other sounds. I do know, though, that if I'm concentrating on something and someone even tries to speak to me and I'm not expecting it, I'll get agitated or anxious, or at least I used to. I noticed I don't do it at work; the kids break my concentration all of the time, and, thankfully, it doesn't bother me. I try to stay "present" at work, though, and work to not get lost in daydreams; I have to constantly break my concentration.
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Old 11-12-2016, 03:49 AM
 
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Oldtrader is correct in that I don't understand ASD. But from how the thread is going, do you really have a "concentration" problem?

It looks like you are so absorbed into this thread that you reply to nearly every post.

At a job, if you get so focused on one thing, and ignore everything else, that is bad as well.

Isn't there something to do for this? Learn to not ignore things that don't interest you. Set a timer to remind you of time or something so you can schedule X activity at Y time. Use phone to popup reminder saying X duty @1400, Y duty @ 1500, etc. A watch that vibrates for school so no one sees it but you
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Old 11-12-2016, 05:41 AM
 
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Oldtrader is correct in that I don't understand ASD. But from how the thread is going, do you really have a "concentration" problem?

It looks like you are so absorbed into this thread that you reply to nearly every post.

At a job, if you get so focused on one thing, and ignore everything else, that is bad as well.

Isn't there something to do for this? Learn to not ignore things that don't interest you. Set a timer to remind you of time or something so you can schedule X activity at Y time. Use phone to popup reminder saying X duty @1400, Y duty @ 1500, etc. A watch that vibrates for school so no one sees it but you
Hey, I'm not saying it won't work. I've just never tried it. I think I have an appointment in a week or so with the counselor I usually see. Perhaps I'll ask her what she thinks, and I also plan to ask about most of the other stuff that was mentioned here.

I don't know. Most of the time, I feel normal enough. It's just that I have tendency to ignore important things when they can't keep my attention. I don't do this on purpose, but it still really gets in the way of being productive. Another really bad habit I have is making plans and never following through, even when I want to. That's why I love classes so much; for the most part, they provide structure and "proof" that I have X,Y,Z skills. I would have a hard time following through and proving it to my employers, otherwise.
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Old 11-12-2016, 10:06 AM
 
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I sent an email to most of the people on that list you provided on my other thread. If I don't get a reply, I'll try to call them. I guess I'll try this and see if it works. I really am already seeing a counselor who specializes in ASD, though, although I'm beginning to think she sees mostly children, not adults. She hasn't offered me just talk therapy, but a lot of our sessions have been mostly talking, perhaps partially because I was afraid to implement her other suggestions, which focused mainly on exposing myself to the negative thoughts to get over the OCD.
Why e-mail them? Call them...you really need to force yourself out of your comfort zone. Same with your posts on the alarms..it doesn't matter what you "prefer" it only matters what works to shake you out of daydream world and force you to action.

You stated the counselor you're seeing tried to do other things but you "freaked out" what were those exactly?

I really don't believe you even wrote them, frankly. It's the same lie as with Toastmasters, when you claimed to e-mail them and they never answered so you couldn't find whether the Monday meetings were still going on...then I e-mailed them and got an answer and told you that in fact they were, and you never went. If you do write these people I feel you do it hoping your e-mail will get lost in the shuffle so you can comeback and say "I did try"

You do not come off as normal, trust me. If you did you wouldn't need to start threads about how unemployable you are, which everyone pretty much agreed that you are.

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Old 11-12-2016, 10:33 AM
 
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The only thing I can do is try it and see how it goes. I have an issue with alarms, usually, though, but that may just be the shrill buzzer. I haven't tried it with other sounds. I do know, though, that if I'm concentrating on something and someone even tries to speak to me and I'm not expecting it, I'll get agitated or anxious, or at least I used to. I noticed I don't do it at work; the kids break my concentration all of the time, and, thankfully, it doesn't bother me. I try to stay "present" at work, though, and work to not get lost in daydreams; I have to constantly break my concentration.
If you like music you shouldn't have a problem with it. When I have had an alarm I use music and I have high senses but I love music so the volume of the music doesn't bother me. With the phone it doesn't get too loud without headphones.


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But from how the thread is going, do you really have a "concentration" problem?

It looks like you are so absorbed into this thread that you reply to nearly every post.
I don't think that's really an indication that someone has a concentration problem or not. With certain things I have a hard time focusing and they are things that I would like to learn. Maybe subconciously I don't want to learn them but I want to try so if anything it might be selective attention but it's not intentional. Actually even some things that I would subconciously want to learn...like if they're not a familiar subject to me at first it would be a struggle to focus on it.
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Old 11-12-2016, 10:51 AM
 
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Why e-mail them? Call them...you really need to force yourself out of your comfort zone. Same with your posts on the alarms..it doesn't matter what you "prefer" it only matters what works to shake you out of daydream world and force you to action.

You stated the counselor you're seeing tried to do other things but you "freaked out" what were those exactly?

I really don't believe you even wrote them, frankly. It's the same lie as with Toastmasters, when you claimed to e-mail them and they never answered so you couldn't find whether the Monday meetings were still going on...then I e-mailed them and got an answer and told you that in fact they were, and you never went. If you do write these people I feel you do it hoping your e-mail will get lost in the shuffle so you can comeback and say "I did try"

You do not come off as normal, trust me. If you did you wouldn't need to start threads about how unemployable you are, which everyone pretty much agreed that you are.

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If that's the case, I wish people would at least mention it a little more often if it's an issue or could become an issue. I did join Toastmasters for a little while, but then I got too busy to attend the meetings. It was okay, even fun for a little while. I even won third place in our local table topics contest, which isn't really anything, but it's proof that I did attend. Then, I decided the time and money could be better spent getting more training.

I did email them, but they didn't reply. I'm planning to call Monday if there is no reply.
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