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I live in Ireland so it may be different in the States but I know here after a certain time, any criminal convictions you have become spent and thus you don't have to declare it
The reason I ask is because one of my friends in America was convicted of underage sex (he's 21, she's 15). He received probation but now has lost his job as a nurse and can't find another one. How hard will it be to find another job?
Is his life really worth it at this point given how tarnishing a record is?
It greatly depends on the pool of talent available. Does he have other skills which are in high demand? How does he come across during an interview? As for a nursing job, he would have to speak with someone who works in that profession and see what their standards are for those specific employers.
For some employers provided someone doesn't have a history of violence and theft, they will consider someone who has a criminal conviction. For some employers there is a liability issue.
After finding all that out, it is especially important in today's market to find a job through your own network you create. So the same would be true for him as well.
They can always just become a professional YouTuber, plenty of former convicted felons on there that served years (hard time) in the clink, that make a nice living (high 5 figures, 6-figures and even 7-figures per year) being a Tuber!
Then why aren't you doing that making 6-7 figures and showing us all how easy it is.
Yeah, I'm sure someone who has been convicted of a crime is going to write about it at length and blog about their next attempt to break the law. HR people are just so useless.
Heck, many such people that purchase a flight to the U.K. will be turned back when they go through customs.
The U.K.'s been known to refuse entry to people that have misdemeanors like drunk driving.
In the States, misdemeanors are often overlooked. And felons can forget working in many jobs, especially government jobs where the FBI does background checks.
The refusal for a DUI is more of a Canadian thing. The UK is generally not that picky.
Personally, I'd look into starting my own company, being a wage slave is over-rated in today's world anyway.
As far as your friend's life "being over", that's way too pessimistic an outlook. I mean, Jerry Lee Lewis has had a great life, with a very similar background to your friend's. Does he know how to play the pyanno and sing?
Yeah, there are so many people who open their own business and are willing to work hard (labor job) and make good money, such as opening a cleaning company (to clean houses), or dry cleaning shop, repairing cars, roofing or flooring company, etc. As long as you are willing to work hard for yourself, doing good job and to be reliable, eventually, you will earn trust and attract many clients, you will do well.
Its not just work. EVERYONE will know. Small towns are the worst, but even in large towns you can run the risk of life being....a bit rough. If he has to register as a sex offender he is truly not going to enjoy the life he could have had.
Also...even if true that he was 21, and she was 15 or whatever...most folks wont believe him. Because heres the thing-a very common tactic from sexual predators who get caught is to lie about the ages of those involved in order to minimize things.
People are right to suggest that he should try and start his own business. Police interactions should be avoided, and he should endeavor to never ever go to jail for anything.
Your friend CAN still have a great life, but he will have to make choices that cause that to happen. And his choices will be much more limited.
It greatly depends on the pool of talent available. Does he have other skills which are in high demand? How does he come across during an interview? As for a nursing job, he would have to speak with someone who works in that profession and see what their standards are for those specific employers.
For some employers provided someone doesn't have a history of violence and theft, they will consider someone who has a criminal conviction. For some employers there is a liability issue.
After finding all that out, it is especially important in today's market to find a job through your own network you create. So the same would be true for him as well.
Underage sexual assault is not the same in most folks' eyes as shoplifting or a simple assault. That's a BIG charge, especially for a "caring" profession like nursing.
I picked up a DUI with comically high BAC in 2017. I plead guilty to reckless endangerment in 2018. No impact to my license. It's never come up in an interview and I have been given several offers since then.
Before I got the DUI charge, I worked for a fintech software company. We loved this candidate. We started digging in the office, and we found "theft over $10,000" charge. Instantly disqualified.
21/15 really stretches the whole Romeo and Juliet thing, even if it was consensual. My friend's father was around 50 when he got caught with the 16 year old stud football player. It was completely consensual. There's no way this would have occurred if the football player wasn't willing to go along.
I don't view the man as a "child molester" - there's never been any evidence that he molested anyone else. That said, he gets put in the same bucket as the serial molester of four year olds. It's really the only thing you can do from a blanket policy corporate perspective.
Freshman/sophomore in high school vs. a junior/senior in college. You can argue it all you want but that’s an adult with a child.
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