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I don't know how the City of London administrative region compares to New York City - the five boroughs. I usually count metropolitan area. In this case the NYC is bigger than Greater London, spreading it's tentacles into CT as well as being largely in northern NJ (hence the 'tri-state' area). About 22 million live in this vast metropolis, as opposed to about 14 million in Greater London.
London also spreads it's tenticles wide, with much of South East England and many Eastern counties being within easy reach. I also agree that it's down to personal preference and as the other poster pointed out a lot of people like to escape from the confines of the city and prefer a bit of greenery and space to breathe.
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Yeah the New York Metro is bigger. Not that bigger is always better mind you.
Got any stats for public transport use in commuting for London?
I remember seeing a figure of only 12.0% for NYC - the same as Sydney - which really surprised me. I assume it's increased since then. Mind you this includes the five boroughs. I imagine the figure for Manhattan is much higher.
Got any stats for public transport use in commuting for London?
I remember seeing a figure of only 12.0% for NYC - the same as Sydney - which really surprised me. I assume it's increased since then. Mind you this includes the five boroughs. I imagine the figure for Manhattan is much higher.
In terms of London as a polycentric mega region, I suggest you read the work of Professor Peter Hall and Professor Kathryn Pain. Both leading experts in their field.
I am not really concerned about statistics or indeed number but their work does offer food for thought. According to Professor Hall, London is at the centre of a polycentric mega city region based around a population of 21 million.
I also think my original analysis in relation to NYC remains true -
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New York's dominance was very clear during the post war decades, the greatest city in the greatest super power in the world. Vast skyscrapers that few other cities could match, coupled with a diversity that made in far more interesting than rival cities. New York also had an edgeness during this period, and you can even see it in films from the period, indeed Martin Scorcese's Taxi Driver pretty much summed up the edgy New York of the time.
Today the skyscrapers aren't as awe inspiring ( a lot of other cities have fairly impressive skyscrapers and growing skylines) whilst globalisation has seen other cities become far more culturally diverse, and you can get the same crap fast food the world over, so there's nothing special about that either, and you can find ethnic diversity and differing cultural areas in most other big cities such as London or Paris, as well as food from around the globe. London has 24 hour Supermarkets, Deli's, Bars, Restaurants, Clubs, Casino's and even Cinemas, whilst black cabs and red buses operate through out the city 24 hours a day and I am sure the same is largely true in Paris and other major cities. Even my local Tesco's is open 24 hours a day now, so you can shop at 3am if the mood so takes you.
At the same time New York has changed, gone is the raw edgy city to be replaced by increasing gentrification. Time Square now resembles something between the Las Vegas Strip and Disneyland, and the corporate Disneyfication of the city has been noted by many commentators.
The truth is New York is still a great city, but the rest of the world has in many respects caught up, and many of the things that made New York unique are not so unique any more.
Got any stats for public transport use in commuting for London?
I remember seeing a figure of only 12.0% for NYC - the same as Sydney - which really surprised me. I assume it's increased since then. Mind you this includes the five boroughs. I imagine the figure for Manhattan is much higher.
I don't know how reliable this is, but Wikipedia claims over 50% for NYC (percentage of commuters that take public transit).
I don't know how the City of London administrative region compares to New York City - the five boroughs. I usually count metropolitan area. In this case the NYC is bigger than Greater London, spreading it's tentacles into CT as well as being largely in northern NJ (hence the 'tri-state' area). About 22 million live in this vast metropolis, as opposed to about 14 million in Greater London.
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Got any stats for public transport use in commuting for London?
I remember seeing a figure of only 12.0% for NYC - the same as Sydney - which really surprised me. I assume it's increased since then. Mind you this includes the five boroughs. I imagine the figure for Manhattan is much higher.
In both stats, the issue is how much area is being counted. The two countries have different methods and cut-offs for what does and does not constitute the metro area. NYC's metro area population of 22 million actually includes an incredible expanse of land covering 11,842 sq mi (30,671 sq km). London on the other hand counts less territory though it's definitely the buckle of the commuter belt.
That vast area that's considered NYC's metro area is also what accounts for its low public transit rate--only 8 million of that 22 million population is within NYC itself and much of the mero area outside of Northern New Jersey is substantially lesser served. Meanwhile, there are plenty of job centers within the NYC metro that are difficult to reach through mass transit.
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