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Owing to the dominance of English in global trade, diplomacy and entertainment, Paris is last of the three. Probably is more charming then the others.
NY has an energy unfounded anywhere else, even London. But that is limited to Manhattan. There is wild electricity in the Manhattan air and its amazing. I like how the worth while stuff is concentrated in NY and not spread out ala London. But NY is a planned city, and London just grew over 2000 years.
London wins though for me. It has cricket and NY doesnt.
"that guy" being me, i didn't only talked about the museums, but it seems it's the only thing you pointed out. Musuems are not dead, they're part of the richness of a city, a major city is a whole, it's not only big buildings, big population, and night life, culture is part of it and it's nothing like dead. To me a city like Miami, with a very poor culture life is more of a dead city, fun for vacation and sun but this is it. Nothing to do with London, NYC or Paris.
But a zoo with depressed animals behind fences is a big sign for a major city??? Yes sorry in the Zoo de Vincennes they're rebuilding the old zoo to make it nicer for the animals, I agree with you it's unbearable...
What do you think, there's no homeless people in NYC??? Dude, you really have a problem, buy glasses, do something! Did you see the huge holes on the sidewalk or on the street in NYC??? seriously compare to those in Paris they're masters in chief! hahah! Public transportation in NY, did you go in Brooklyn or Queens where the biggest part of New Yorkers live? I doubt it. Yes you have a train all day long but sometimes between 2 and 6 am you have to wait 30 min for it and there are areas as big as Manhattan with nearly no subway stations at all, but there's a lot of people living there. No seriously, stop talking about something you don't know you just make a fool of yourself. In Paris you're never more 10 min walking away from the subway, most of the time not even 5 min. A train every 2 to 5 min. The bad part is only that the traffic stops between 1 or 2 am til 5:30 am.
In another post you say you earn "only" 3000 € a month which is not enough to have a decent life in Paris....what the F**k!!!!! Again people need to understand that in France the Health Care and all the helps we have, free medical cares, nearly free universities ( 300€ a year, yes a year), all of that is in your salary, your salary plus the charges are actually about 3 times what is on your salary bill, but you don't take care of it, the governement does. So someone who earns 3000€ a month, like that sir, for the same social level in the US for example would earn easely $10 000 a month. Knowing he probably has more than 3 weeks vacation a year, if he goes to the hospital he doesn't pay for it, if he has baby he doesn't pay, if he went to College he didn't spend between $20 000 to $50 000 a year for 4 years to study, and if he has kids he won't spend that for them.
So knowing that, this guy is complaining how hard it is to live in Paris with this amount of money, compared of course to London or New York, where rents are the same or higher...Yes you understand now why he is getting on my nerves. Pigeonhole, you have no concept of reality at all about other cities in other countries (at least not the ones we're talking about here), you're point of view for that is meaningless.
You don't like Paris, fine that's your right. But your points are over exagerated, as fake as true, not mesured at all, totally subjective and in term of comparison just meaningless because you don't know what you're talking about, obviously you don't know nothing about living in NY or in London.
I do think you have a problem with big cities, so just go to a small city with no musuem, no art life, no subway, no dirt, no noise, no people, but with a zoo, big swimming pools and cheap good food and be happy! But anyways you wouldn't be happy in NY or in London, trust me. I just wonder what you're doing here, as you don't like big cities. Please just move out, you're right you don't need Paris, and Paris doesn't need you.
What ? your rant means nothing to me. I lived in London (Willesden and Chiswick) and NYC (West End Avenue, East Village). Do you have something comparable to Jones Beach in Paris ? Nope . Instead ...bloody m.u.s.e.u.m.s! do you have something comparable to say, Bushy Park (with deer!) in Paris . Instead, bloody Vincennes and Boulogne parks, full of junk! once upon a time, there was a nice (and pretty, wooden, old style ) open air pool on the Seine river -"bains Deligny" , it was arsoned because "mind you"! the bourgeois people didn't want to witness the "homo scene" around the pool! everything is like that in Paris, an undercurrent of nastiness American tourists know nothing about.
I was born April 14th 1955 in Neuilly (a half mile west of Paris) and have spent most of my life there so I have no lesson to reveive from tourists with rose colored glasses!
And by the way to say that SS is free in France is a bloody lie, I pay exactly € 231, 00 ("Mutuelle+diverse taxes) every month; not free in my book.
And the average rent in Paris (for a decent 1 bedroom flat with basic comfort, American style ) is at least 1.200 €, so yes , with 3000 € (after 30 years carreer) it's (barely) enough, but most people don't earn that here!
What ? your rant means nothing to me. I lived in London (Willesden and Chiswick) and NYC (West End Avenue, East Village). Do you have something comparable to Jones Beach in Paris ? Nope . Instead ...bloody m.u.s.e.u.m.s! do you have something comparable to say, Bushy Park (with deer!) in Paris . Instead, bloody Vincennes and Boulogne parks, full of junk! once upon a time, there was a nice (and pretty, wooden, old style ) open air pool on the Seine river -"bains Deligny" , it was arsoned because "mind you"! the bourgeois people didn't want to witness the "homo scene" around the pool! everything is like that in Paris, an undercurrent of nastiness American tourists know nothing about.
I was born April 14th 1955 in Neuilly (a half mile west of Paris) and have spent most of my life there so I have no lesson to reveive from tourists with rose colored glasses!
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And by the way to say that SS is free in France is a bloody lie, I pay exactly € 231, 00 ("Mutuelle+diverse taxes) every month; not free in my book.
And the average rent in Paris (for a decent 1 bedroom flat with basic comfort, American style ) is at least 1.200 €, so yes , with 3000 € (after 30 years carreer) it's (barely) enough, but most people don't earn that here!
In terms of New York and London I found this article by the author James Jackson very interesting. Jackson has grown to know both cities during his life, whilst his family have strong New York connections.
In this respect he is able to offer a better analysis of what it is to live in both cities and I personally find much of what he says rings true.
New York's dominance was very clear during the post war decades, the greatest city in the greatest super power in the world. Vast skyscrapers that few other cities could match, coupled with a diversity that made in far more interesting than rival cities. New York also had an edgeness during this period, and you can even see it in films from the period, indeed Martin Scorcese's Taxi Driver pretty much summed up the edgy New York of the time.
Today the skyscrapers aren't as awe inspiring ( a lot of other cities have fairly impressive skyscrapers and growing skylines) whilst globalisation has seen other cities become far more culturally diverse, and you can get the same crap fast food the world over, so there's nothing special about that either, and you can find ethnic diversity and differing cultural areas in most other big cities such as London or Paris, as well as food from around the globe. London has 24 hour Supermarkets, Deli's, Bars, Restaurants, Clubs, Casino's and even Cinemas, whilst black cabs and red buses operate through out the city 24 hours a day and I am sure the same is largely true in Paris and other major cities. Even my local Tesco's is open 24 hours a day now, so you can shop at 3am if the mood so takes you.
At the same time New York has changed, gone is the raw edgy city to be replaced by increasing gentrification. Time Square now resembles something between the Las Vegas Strip and Disneyland, and the corporate Disneyfication of the city has been noted by many commentators.
The truth is New York is still a great city, but the rest of the world has in many respects caught up, and many of the things that made New York unique are not so unique any more.
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In terms of New York and London I found this article by the author James Jackson very interesting. Jackson has grown to know both cities during his life, whilst his family have strong New York connections.
In this respect he is able to offer a better analysis of what it is to live in both cities and I personally find much of what he says rings true.
New York's dominance was very clear during the post war decades, the greatest city in the greatest super power in the world. Vast skyscrapers that few other cities could match, coupled with a diversity that made in far more interesting than rival cities. New York also had an edgeness during this period, and you can even see it in films from the period, indeed Martin Scorcese's Taxi Driver pretty much summed up the edgy New York of the time.
Today the skyscrapers aren't as awe inspiring ( a lot of other cities have fairly impressive skyscrapers and growing skylines) whilst globalisation has seen other cities become far more culturally diverse, and you can get the same crap fast food the world over, so there's nothing special about that either, and you can find ethnic diversity and differing cultural areas in most other big cities such as London or Paris, as well as food from around the globe. London has 24 hour Deli's, 24 hour Cafes, clubs and bars are open all hours, even supermarkets are now open 24 hours a day, and I am sure the same is true in Paris.
At the same time New York has changed, gone is the raw edgy city to be replaced by increasing gentrification. Time Square now resembles something between the Las Vegas Strip and Disneyland, and the corporate Disneyfication of the city has been noted by many commentators.
The truth is New York is still a great city, but the rest of the world has in many respects caught up, and many of the things that made New York unique are not so unique any more.
I don't know, there's something so classical about NYC. To me it's the original big city. I've been to many other big cities but none match the magic of the Big Apple.
I don't know, there's something so classical about NYC. To me it's the original big city. I've been to many other big cities but none match the magic of the Big Apple.
That's a fair point, but wouldn't an old world city be "the original big city" or more "classical" if worded that way?
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That's a fair point, but wouldn't an old world city be "the original big city" or more "classical" if worded that way?
Well in the modern sense of 'big city', with skyscrapers, a subway, traffic.etc. The stereotypical image of a big city tends to include those things, which is why London is not the stereotypical megacity New York is.
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