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View Poll Results: EU or USA
European Union 119 45.25%
USA 144 54.75%
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Old 11-27-2013, 01:48 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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What is the EU doing to improve this?
Well all medium to large cities typically push public transit or public intercity transit pretty hard, and it is much more common to take a train or bus than drive. Also, the minority who do drive usually drive smaller cars than in N. America. Cycling is often incredibly popular, too.

Then there is the fact that housing is typically different, with less space and appliances per person. Fridges are smaller, no drying machine, etc. There is just less energy expenditure per capita per average European, but the number of them and density of western Europe still keeps it polluted.

 
Old 11-27-2013, 02:34 AM
 
Location: SW France
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Lol so what were the lines are, the point is I proved you wrong, Houston actually has a pretty well extensive light rail system not as good as European cities its size but its still pretty good.
It's good to see that the light railway has expanded since my time there and I believe that there are plans for further expansion.

I still don't agree that your point is proved when the main extent of the rail system is confined to the inner loop.

What's it like in Chicago?
 
Old 11-27-2013, 02:50 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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This isn't an arguable point--I don't see why any of you are carrying this on. Mass transit in the US overall is a lot worse than it is in Europe. That will likely be the case for decades even were the US to continue the expansion of various systems and the EU simply kept their transit systems as they are--which is also not happening.

The US has awesome national parks. The EU is not going to start creating giant old growth forests from scratch.

Each area has their own advantages. Stop trying to obfuscate something so ridiculously simple.
 
Old 11-27-2013, 02:58 AM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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Lets see the USA is the largest most populated country to have limited its population so greatly, and the USA has less pollution than Europe. Its so sad what Europeans have to breath everyday.
No pollution where I live. Very clean air and water.

As for public transport, I live in a rural area and have a bus going past my house every hour.
 
Old 11-27-2013, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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It's good to see that the light railway has expanded since my time there and I believe that there are plans for further expansion.

I still don't agree that your point is proved when the main extent of the rail system is confined to the inner loop.

What's it like in Chicago?
Chicago has two different systems the CTA and the METRA, the CTA runs in the middle of the highways here as the metra doesn't.
This is the CTA

https://www.google.com/search?q=chic...ml%3B711%3B766



https://www.google.com/search?q=chic...ap%3B505%3B600
 
Old 11-27-2013, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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No pollution where I live. Very clean air and water.

As for public transport, I live in a rural area and have a bus going past my house every hour.
Good for you, how many times do I have to say this, SAME IN THE USA! we do have buses running in rural areas you already told me that...
 
Old 11-27-2013, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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This isn't an arguable point--I don't see why any of you are carrying this on. Mass transit in the US overall is a lot worse than it is in Europe. That will likely be the case for decades even were the US to continue the expansion of various systems and the EU simply kept their transit systems as they are--which is also not happening.

The US has awesome national parks. The EU is not going to start creating giant old growth forests from scratch.

Each area has their own advantages. Stop trying to obfuscate something so ridiculously simple.
Yes the EU has better transportation but people on here simply think every city except NYC doesn't have any transportation which isn't true.
 
Old 11-27-2013, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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Good for you, how many times do I have to say this, SAME IN THE USA! we do have buses running in rural areas you already told me that...
Rural areas with buses in the US? BS.
 
Old 11-27-2013, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Rural areas with buses in the US? BS.
Foolish...mind of a typical European, doesn't look up any facts just bases things off of thin air. Lets see where should we start?
 
Old 11-27-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Gorgeous Scotland
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Foolish...mind of a typical European, doesn't look up any facts just bases things off of thin air. Lets see where should we start?
Hmmm....looks like a lot of darker green areas with no service. This also doesn't tell how frequent and where the services are in the rural areas that actually get service.

Nope. Not feeling foolish. All my relatives live in suburbs, not even rural areas, in the US and only one has any type of bus service and that is limited to where it goes.

Oh, and how many times do I have to repeat to you that I'm not European.
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