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View Poll Results: Is it a coincidence?
Yes 8 24.24%
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Old 12-03-2016, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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edit: thread title doesn't seem to fit completely... and the most religious the least successful.

I don't think its a coincidence, what do you guys think?
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Old 12-03-2016, 09:45 PM
 
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I think without good solid statistics you are assuming a lot which I don't think is a coincidence....
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Old 12-03-2016, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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I think without good solid statistics you are assuming a lot which I don't think is a coincidence....
Some examples...

Least religious:
Canada, UK, Netherlands, France, Switzerland, Austria, Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Japan, Australia, New Zealand

Most religious:
Guinea, Mali, Niger, Chad, Congo, Sudan, Uganda, Somalia, Djibouti, Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Papua
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Old 12-04-2016, 12:32 AM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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Apply some entry-level statistics:

Outliers: The USA as the falsifying elephant in the room.
Confounders: Stratify data according to types of religiosity.
Temporal effect: Correlate religiosity with trends rather than the status quo.
Tautologies: Exclude HDIs that axiomatically define non-religious values systems as cultural merit.

And you get a very different picture.

The west rose to pre-eminence with the Reformation and Renaissance, when Anti-Romanist (Biblical) Christianity took hold in Europe. What has the trend been in the 4 or so decades since epistemic naturalism became de rigueur at the popular level?




Welcome to the Asian Century.

China on course to become 'world's most Christian nation' within 15 years - Telegraph
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Old 12-04-2016, 01:12 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Some examples...

Least religious:
Canada, UK, Netherlands, France, Switzerland, Austria, Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Japan, Australia, New Zealand

I think you have a point but weren't these countries religious at one point? With the exception of a few weren't they mostly Protestant? Shouldn't that be taken into account in their development?
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Old 12-04-2016, 01:35 AM
 
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The more economic hardship there is, the more believers there are.
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Old 12-04-2016, 06:09 AM
 
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People in poorer countries draw strength from religion. When you're fat and happy, it's easy to put God side. As noted above, most successful countries today experienced their fastest growth while taking their religion seriously. Correlation does not imply causation.
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Old 12-04-2016, 07:55 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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India and Israel. Religious and doing quite well. I don't think Japan is non-religious so you put it on the wrong list.

The USA did much better when it was religious and believed in the protestant work ethic.

Saudi Arabia, very rich, very religious.

I don't think your list has anything to do with religion. I think the divider there is location on the map.
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Old 12-04-2016, 08:24 AM
 
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9-4V3HR696k

^ Here's an interesting video; the bit about religion is from around 2:30-4:00.
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Old 12-04-2016, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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India and Israel. Religious and doing quite well. I don't think Japan is non-religious so you put it on the wrong list.

The USA did much better when it was religious and believed in the protestant work ethic.

Saudi Arabia, very rich, very religious.

I don't think your list has anything to do with religion. I think the divider there is location on the map.
India doing quite well Dirt everywhere, rats running around, people pooping on the streets and washing their body and clothing in rivers.

I said in "general" it doesn't apply to every country, Saudi Arabia is only rich because of their oil and being rich is not the only thing that makes a country successful.
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