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Old 06-23-2017, 06:48 PM
 
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Some good points above but in the long term I'm still betting on India, Japan, Korea vs anything Chinese. Some things to consider about India alone:

* More populous than China in 20-30 years;
* More people in IT than any other nation;
* Growing cultural influence through Bollywood...man their beauties actresses make the prettiest white American actresses look like heroine addicts. This is important as foreigners form their opinion on a country and learn its language mostly from movies/songs and not from school;
* No problems with organized crime.

Then again China have the whole "asians have the highest IQ" thing. Plus closer ties to Russia.
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Old 06-23-2017, 07:02 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Some good points above but in the long term I'm still betting on India, Japan, Korea vs anything Chinese. Some things to consider about India alone:

* More populous than China in 20-30 years;
* More people in IT than any other nation;
* Growing cultural influence through Bollywood...man their beauties actresses make the prettiest white American actresses look like heroine addicts. This is important as foreigners form their opinion on a country and learn its language mostly from movies/songs and not from school;
* No problems with organized crime.

Then again China have the whole "asians have the highest IQ" thing. Plus closer ties to Russia.
I don't understand why you think this. Japan and Korea can be eliminated simply because of the population size (since this is about total GDP, not GDP per capita). India has as large and what will almost certainly be a larger population than China, but has some pretty severe issues to deal with. China certainly has more people in IT as a broader category than India does, the domestic media industry of China is large enough to support a massive industry and will likely expand into other markets, and the organized crime in India is worse in that it's rampant and in many ways destructively disorganized. In addition to that, India has a massive pollution problem that makes China's issues look like the set of the Sound of Music and currently has a far lower GDP per capita, literacy rate, and college education rate. It also has incredible inequity, unstable neighbors, and a lot of in-fighting among Indian states. If India were able to do a peaceable union with what are now Pakistan and Bangladesh, then this would be a straightforward discussion, but that is certainly not what happened.
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Old 06-23-2017, 07:05 PM
 
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Some good points above but in the long term I'm still betting on India, Japan, Korea vs anything Chinese. Some things to consider about India alone:

* More populous than China in 20-30 years;
* More people in IT than any other nation;
* Growing cultural influence through Bollywood...man their beauties actresses make the prettiest white American actresses look like heroine addicts. This is important as foreigners form their opinion on a country and learn its language mostly from movies/songs and not from school;
* No problems with organized crime.

Then again China have the whole "asians have the highest IQ" thing. Plus closer ties to Russia.
As a side note, China has more and more Caucasian-like actresses in recent years. They are mostly Uyghurs e.g. Dilraba Dilmurat and Coulee Nazha.
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Old 06-23-2017, 11:26 PM
 
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I don't think gross GDP is what we should be focusing on, but okay
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Old 06-24-2017, 04:37 AM
 
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usa will be further ahead than it is now in 2050 as long as it doesnt politcaly fracture to a point where the economy suffers great damage
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Old 06-24-2017, 09:55 AM
 
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usa will be further ahead than it is now in 2050 as long as it doesnt politcaly fracture to a point where the economy suffers great damage
With how polarized the political scene is now I wouldn't be surprised, it seems like the only thing that will reunite the people at this point is some sort of invasion from an external enemy.
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Cannes
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With how polarized the political scene is now I wouldn't be surprised, it seems like the only thing that will reunite the people at this point is some sort of invasion from an external enemy.
I think despite the civil unrest because of politics US has the advantage that China, India does not and that is R&D, yes China is developing things on their own( probably by reverse engineering things from the west) but the US holds too much knowledge under their belt
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:54 AM
 
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I think despite the civil unrest because of politics US has the advantage that China, India does not and that is R&D, yes China is developing things on their own( probably by reverse engineering things from the west) but the US holds too much knowledge under their belt
The US also imports a lot of their intellectuals, for instance 34% of employees in Microdoft are Indian (including the CEO) and 38% of doctors in the US are also Indian, India just needs to figure out a way to stop its brain drain and give their skilled people high paying jobs.
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:57 AM
 
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usa will be further ahead than it is now in 2050 as long as it doesnt politcaly fracture to a point where the economy suffers great damage
US's biggest "power" is that they create their own "enemies" that they're sure they can defeat.
China is made-up enemy economically, Russia is made up political enemy and the Arabs are made up military enemy.
That's why the only way to defeat the Westn and America is not to play their game, which is why I'm betting on places like Japan, Israel and Eastern Europe to play bigger role instead of the friendly customer service from India or the cheap iPhone covers from China.
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Old 06-24-2017, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Cannes
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The US also imports a lot of their intellectuals, for instance 34% of employees in Microdoft are Indian (including the CEO) and 38% of doctors in the US are also Indian, India just needs to figure out a way to stop its brain drain and give their skilled people high paying jobs.
The brain drain had been a tactic used since the first world war...The US is way too attractive for smart foreigners as it has a lot of money invested in research.
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