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Old 02-08-2013, 08:36 AM
 
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From the TOS:
Be civil, no personal attacks, or insults. Be careful with your words, there is a point where being direct crosses a line into blunt, in-your-face hostility. Please, report bad posts instead of engaging in flame wars on the boards. Insulting another member or a moderator will not be tolerated anywhere on this website. This includes Direct Messages and Reputation Comments.
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City Data member A, sent another City Data member B, a direct message.
In that direct message, the sender (A) told the receiver (B) that another City Data member C was a criminal, etc. (the etc. has been omitted because the content went well beyond the term criminal)

I'm told it is not a violation because:
1. member A did not send it to member C.
2. member B did not report it.

Why?

If not a violation, it says that member C can send direct messages to members D through Z, and tell those members anything they desire about member A, and it is not a violation.

This goes beyond calling someone an idiot, a fool, or a dumb butt.

It enters a red zone which seems to cross a line in the sand between insults and down right slander.
It opens a can of worms if such direct messages are allowed, just because member A did not send it directly to member C.

 
Old 02-08-2013, 11:41 AM
 
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^^^ Of course it's not a violation. Everyone is free to say anything they wish in a private conversation.
It's a matter of insulting someone in their presence as opposed to talking about them behind their back.
 
Old 02-09-2013, 10:20 AM
 
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^^^ Of course it's not a violation. Everyone is free to say anything they wish in a private conversation.
It's a matter of insulting someone in their presence as opposed to talking about them behind their back.
I think you're overlooking this from the TOS:

From the TOS:
Be civil, no personal attacks, or insults. Be careful with your words, there is a point where being direct crosses a line into blunt, in-your-face hostility. Please, report bad posts instead of engaging in flame wars on the boards. Insulting another member or a moderator will not be tolerated anywhere on this website. This includes Direct Messages and Reputation Comments.
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Calling another member, any other member a "criminal" is certainly insulting.
 
Old 02-09-2013, 10:57 AM
 
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Calling another member, any other member a "criminal" is certainly insulting.
What if they are indeed a criminal though?

 
Old 02-09-2013, 11:18 AM
 
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What if they are indeed a criminal though?

Probably should be reported to the police, then.
 
Old 02-09-2013, 02:27 PM
 
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But if the poster receiving the DM doesn't report it, then Poster C has no recourse b/c it's not public or objectionable to Posters A & B.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:07 PM
 
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I think you're overlooking this from the TOS:

From the TOS:
Be civil, no personal attacks, or insults. Be careful with your words, there is a point where being direct crosses a line into blunt, in-your-face hostility. Please, report bad posts instead of engaging in flame wars on the boards. Insulting another member or a moderator will not be tolerated anywhere on this website. This includes Direct Messages and Reputation Comments.
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Calling another member, any other member a "criminal" is certainly insulting.
Like in real life, if the claim is substantiated it is a legitimate statement might be accurate. If the claim is bogus, malicious or false then it is libel, which is the embodiment of a personal attack.
Outing members here is frowned upon in this forum. If it becomes problematic if that information is spread around or came up in a discussion thread. While I question the recourse about the discussion of items in a direct messages, as long as it stays private. However, anything electronic has a sneaky way of becoming public or put out in the open. Meaning caution needs to be used when a touchy topic like this comes up. If you believe there is wrongdoing then you should address those issues.
 
Old 02-09-2013, 10:22 PM
 
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If I was Member C, I'd tell Member B to either report it or stop telling me about it.
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:31 AM
 
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I don't like tattles. Something along the lines of your message has been duly noted, then moved to the deleted files. If I am feeling like a good fight I'd address it directly. Otherwise ignore.
 
Old 02-10-2013, 01:51 AM
 
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We don't moderate DMs. The only exceptions being spam and unsolicited and reported personal attacks. By unsolicited, we mean no previous conversation at all. Otherwise, your private correspondence is your private correspondence.
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