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Old 11-20-2015, 01:37 PM
 
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I'm very worried about continued interest by europeans and americans in this issue.
Ah, now your starting to see what I’ve been posting on for the longest.


THIS MESSAGE IS FOR THE OVERSEER CLASS, DON’T THINK FOR A MINUTE THAT YOU ARE NOT ALSO ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK.


The Berlin Conference is where the Euros decided on how they were going to slice and dice the continent in order to pleasure themselves and boost their self-esteem.


Now with the collapse of the socialist bloc resistance, the global plantation system which was born, if not perfected, in the Americas now wants to do the same. This time using the U.S. plantation model and if you think massah is bad, I can personally tell you his slaves can be way worse.


Massah and his slaves and dependents fell entitled to turn the continent into their own personal plantation.

Despite my criticisms of the overseer class, many of you most know from what’s going on with previous “humanitarian” interventions, that massah and his slaves bring nothing but chaos and disaster.


I suggest the current overseer class rethink the massah infatuation.
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Old 11-22-2015, 06:00 PM
 
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This is all very interesting, but Eurasian DNA has also been found in other parts of Africa:

"But it goes further than that, because if you go to the corners of Africa, all the way to West Africa or South Africa, even populations that we really thought were purely African have 5-6% of their genome that dates back to these western Eurasian farmers...

...While previous studies have documented substantial West Eurasian ancestry in some sub-Saharan African populations, including Nigerians and KhoeSan from southern Africa, if the findings of this paper are right, they are important because they extend these claims to populations that were previously thought to have little or no West Eurasian ancestry, for example Mbuti hunter gatherers from central/east Africa."
Ancient DNA reveals 'into Africa' migration - BBC News

I have no expertise in this, but Africa is very fascinating in that it is so genetically, culturally and linguistically diverse.

Also, you never implied otherwise, but obviously, Ethiopians and other Africans who have some Eurasian DNA remain..........Africans.

I'm looking forward to reading more about that continent.
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Old 11-22-2015, 06:35 PM
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This is all very interesting, but Eurasian DNA has also been found in other parts of Africa:

"But it goes further than that, because if you go to the corners of Africa, all the way to West Africa or South Africa, even populations that we really thought were purely African have 5-6% of their genome that dates back to these western Eurasian farmers...

...While previous studies have documented substantial West Eurasian ancestry in some sub-Saharan African populations, including Nigerians and KhoeSan from southern Africa, if the findings of this paper are right, they are important because they extend these claims to populations that were previously thought to have little or no West Eurasian ancestry, for example Mbuti hunter gatherers from central/east Africa."
Ancient DNA reveals 'into Africa' migration - BBC News

I have no expertise in this, but Africa is very fascinating in that it is so genetically, culturally and linguistically diverse.

Also, you never implied otherwise, but obviously, Ethiopians and other Africans who have some Eurasian DNA remain..........Africans.

I'm looking forward to reading more about that continent.

Yes of course. Africa is so fascinating it remains very underrepresented as far as ancient DNA samples go there is yet so much to learn. I certainly don't have any expertise on the subject I simply am curious and try to stay somewhat updated on what the current studies are revealing.
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Old 11-22-2015, 07:00 PM
 
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I agree, and wish I had some sort of crystal ball to look into the future, as Africans are projected to constitute about 25 percent of the world's population by 2050; and 49 percent by 2100. What happens by 2150? Who knows?

5 ways the world will look dramatically different in 2100
The world is about to get a lot more crowded
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...erent-in-2100/

It's weird, but since humanity first originated in Africa, with these projections, it seems like the world is once more returning to being primarily African.
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Old 11-22-2015, 07:46 PM
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I agree, and wish I had some sort of crystal ball to look into the future, as Africans are projected to constitute about 25 percent of the world's population by 2050; and 49 percent by 2100. What happens by 2150? Who knows?

5 ways the world will look dramatically different in 2100
The world is about to get a lot more crowded
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...erent-in-2100/

It's weird, but since humanity first originated in Africa, with these projections, it seems like the world is once more returning to being primarily African.

I suspect the birth rates will drop dramatically as African countries become more prosperous. I don't know for sure but I also suspect in 100 years or so most of the worlds population will be mixed and those that identify by race will be an anomaly. But yes it does look like the population of Africa will increase dramatically.
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Old 11-23-2015, 03:51 AM
 
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If Africa grows that much and fast, it will be a catastrophe because such growth is based on poverty and outdated views and the lack of development and education. Educated people usually don't have many kids.
Nigeria already is a mess today, imagine 400 million people in such a small country with such huge ethnic/religious rifts. Basically its only source of income is oil, but 50 years from now even the most retarded people will long have realized we have to move away from oil and gas. That will also cause a lot of problems in the Muslim world when all those countries based on petro dollars and full of conservative Muslims will lose their wealth. Compared to that Syria today is peanuts.
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Old 11-25-2015, 08:41 PM
 
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Aren't Tuaregs, who are or can be pretty dark, Berber as well though? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuareg_people
Berbers vary in terms of their racial identity. Tuareg can often be over half Sub-Saharan African by ancestry. Groups further north in the Sahara, including the Mozabites, have smaller but detectable Sub-Saharan African ancestry (on the order of 20%). The groups furthest north, like the Rif and the Kabyles, have very little recent Sub-Saharan African ancestry, although there are signs their ultimate origin was due to a very ancient mixture of Near Eastern farmers with a stone-age North African population related to modern Sub-Saharan Africans. In essentially all of the Maghreb countries, the northern Berber populations are "whiter" than local Arabs, because the descendants of the Islamic-era black slaves acculturated into the majority Arab society, while the Berbers kept few slaves themselves.

Regardless, the bottom line is the original Berbers were probably "white" - or at least had their origins in a population which looked a lot more visibly similar to Near Easterners than Sub-Saharan Africans. FWIW Egyptian depictions of ancient Libyans (who were probably proto-Berbers) showed them as being pretty pale (located in the left of this picture).

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Old 01-05-2016, 08:00 AM
 
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Berbers vary in terms of their racial identity. Tuareg can often be over half Sub-Saharan African by ancestry. Groups further north in the Sahara, including the Mozabites, have smaller but detectable Sub-Saharan African ancestry (on the order of 20%). The groups furthest north, like the Rif and the Kabyles, have very little recent Sub-Saharan African ancestry, although there are signs their ultimate origin was due to a very ancient mixture of Near Eastern farmers with a stone-age North African population related to modern Sub-Saharan Africans. In essentially all of the Maghreb countries, the northern Berber populations are "whiter" than local Arabs, because the descendants of the Islamic-era black slaves acculturated into the majority Arab society, while the Berbers kept few slaves themselves.

Regardless, the bottom line is the original Berbers were probably "white" - or at least had their origins in a population which looked a lot more visibly similar to Near Easterners than Sub-Saharan Africans. FWIW Egyptian depictions of ancient Libyans (who were probably proto-Berbers) showed them as being pretty pale (located in the left of this picture).
This is not true! The original indigenous Berbers were black people. The indigenous Berbers were the North African ancestors of the present day dark-brown people of Sahara and Sahel, mainly those who are called the Fulani, Tugareg, Zenagha of Southern Morocco, Kunta and Tebbu of the Sahel countries, as well as other dark-brown Arabs now living in Mauretania and throughout the Sahel, including the Trarza of Mauretania and Senegal, the Mogharba as well as dozens of other Sudanese tribes, the Chaamba of Chad and Algeria.

The Western world just concentrate on the more recent and Berber speaking peoples.

– Dana Reynolds, Anthropologist
Anthropologist, Dana Reynolds traced the African roots of the original North African peoples through a dozen Greek and Byzantine (neo-Roman writers) from the first to the sixth century A.D. "They describe the Berber population of Northern Africa as dark-skinned [modern Europeans call dark brown skin color, as black-skinned] and woolly-haired." Among these writers who wrote about the Berbers were Martial, Silius Italicus, Corippus and Procopius. Saint Augustine was a dark-skinned Berber and many of the later Roman emperors would have trouble getting citizenship in some of today’s European states.
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Old 01-12-2016, 02:39 PM
 
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Berbers vary in terms of their racial identity. Tuareg can often be over half Sub-Saharan African by ancestry. Groups further north in the Sahara, including the Mozabites, have smaller but detectable Sub-Saharan African ancestry (on the order of 20%). The groups furthest north, like the Rif and the Kabyles, have very little recent Sub-Saharan African ancestry, although there are signs their ultimate origin was due to a very ancient mixture of Near Eastern farmers with a stone-age North African population related to modern Sub-Saharan Africans. In essentially all of the Maghreb countries, the northern Berber populations are "whiter" than local Arabs, because the descendants of the Islamic-era black slaves acculturated into the majority Arab society, while the Berbers kept few slaves themselves.

Regardless, the bottom line is the original Berbers were probably "white" - or at least had their origins in a population which looked a lot more visibly similar to Near Easterners than Sub-Saharan Africans. FWIW Egyptian depictions of ancient Libyans (who were probably proto-Berbers) showed them as being pretty pale (located in the left of this picture).

I think everyone is tired of historical accuracy or fact being drawn from this image time and time again to further personal insecurities no matter how elaborately they are disguised or undiagnosed.
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Old 01-14-2016, 05:57 PM
 
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I think everyone is tired of historical accuracy or fact being drawn from this image time and time again to further personal insecurities no matter how elaborately they are disguised or undiagnosed.
I agree, especially "humanitarian" interventionist Americans who are obsessed with exporting their disgusting plantation culture throughout the world.
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