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Old 03-04-2014, 10:55 AM
 
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Hey everyone my GF and I will be going to Jamaica for a family reunion in July. My mother is from the island, but she is kinda old school and she has not lived in Jamaica since 1973. I am curious what are somethings that are not allowed or frowned upon in Jamaica. Id like to know what to pack versus what I shouldnt take. In 2011 my family went to St Lucia to meet relatives on my dads side of the family, my brothers and I were all wearing black tee shirts and army fatigues (it was the style back home in Florida that we used to wear) When landed in St Lucia my brothers and I were separated from the rest of our family and patted down ask if we were soldiers in another country's army. We were then told we were not allowed to dress the way we were dress if we wanted to leave the airport to the St Lucia population. My dad was really annoyed by this being this was his home island. So we went in our luggage and changed clothes so we could leave the St. Lucia airport for our house we were renting. To avoid any situations like this, what are some of the things that may not be allowed in Jamaica? Is there any info on dos and donts you have from prior visits?
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:54 PM
 
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Hey everyone my GF and I will be going to Jamaica for a family reunion in July. My mother is from the island, but she is kinda old school and she has not lived in Jamaica since 1973. I am curious what are somethings that are not allowed or frowned upon in Jamaica. Id like to know what to pack versus what I shouldnt take. In 2011 my family went to St Lucia to meet relatives on my dads side of the family, my brothers and I were all wearing black tee shirts and army fatigues (it was the style back home in Florida that we used to wear) When landed in St Lucia my brothers and I were separated from the rest of our family and patted down ask if we were soldiers in another country's army. We were then told we were not allowed to dress the way we were dress if we wanted to leave the airport to the St Lucia population. My dad was really annoyed by this being this was his home island. So we went in our luggage and changed clothes so we could leave the St. Lucia airport for our house we were renting. To avoid any situations like this, what are some of the things that may not be allowed in Jamaica? Is there any info on dos and donts you have from prior visits?

In many parts of the Caribbean it is actually ILLEGAL to dress in military gear.

Males should ensure that they walk with some trousers and shirts with collars. Some restaurants don't allow short pants or shirts with no collars. You will find that short pants (for men) are used only very informally in the Caribbean. OK for general hanging out during the day. But not so OK at night. Sleeveless dresses are OK for females.

Also understand that if you are black you are expected to know better about observing the rules, even if you aren't from the Caribbean.


Basically just do what you saw people doing in St Lucia.
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Old 03-05-2014, 07:44 AM
 
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In many parts of the Caribbean it is actually ILLEGAL to dress in military gear.

Males should ensure that they walk with some trousers and shirts with collars. Some restaurants don't allow short pants or shirts with no collars. You will find that short pants (for men) are used only very informally in the Caribbean. OK for general hanging out during the day. But not so OK at night. Sleeveless dresses are OK for females.

Also understand that if you are black you are expected to know better about observing the rules, even if you aren't from the Caribbean.


Basically just do what you saw people doing in St Lucia.
Well there wasnt anything that I noticed about St Lucia people, other than they were very poor, but they seemed to dress the same ways poor folks dress in United States.

Understand that if im black im EXPECTED to observe THE RULES? What rules are you talking about? I thought most of Jamaica was black, has the population changed?
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Old 03-05-2014, 08:12 AM
 
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Well there wasnt anything that I noticed about St Lucia people, other than they were very poor, but they seemed to dress the same ways poor folks dress in United States.

Understand that if im black im EXPECTED to observe THE RULES? What rules are you talking about? I thought most of Jamaica was black, has the population changed?
What's meant by that is that if you're Black, you're not gonna get as much leeway for breaking social norms than if you're White.
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Old 03-05-2014, 09:19 AM
 
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Hey everyone my GF and I will be going to Jamaica for a family reunion in July. My mother is from the island, but she is kinda old school and she has not lived in Jamaica since 1973. I am curious what are somethings that are not allowed or frowned upon in Jamaica. Id like to know what to pack versus what I shouldnt take. In 2011 my family went to St Lucia to meet relatives on my dads side of the family, my brothers and I were all wearing black tee shirts and army fatigues (it was the style back home in Florida that we used to wear) When landed in St Lucia my brothers and I were separated from the rest of our family and patted down ask if we were soldiers in another country's army. We were then told we were not allowed to dress the way we were dress if we wanted to leave the airport to the St Lucia population. My dad was really annoyed by this being this was his home island. So we went in our luggage and changed clothes so we could leave the St. Lucia airport for our house we were renting. To avoid any situations like this, what are some of the things that may not be allowed in Jamaica? Is there any info on dos and donts you have from prior visits?
It kind of depends on where in JA you will be. The precautions you take in Kingston are much different from Negril for example.
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Old 03-06-2014, 02:49 PM
 
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a) Don't dress like a streetcorner gangsta. For gosh sakes don't drop yer drawers
b) Don't dress like paramilitary - no black tees, camo clothing, etc
c) Dress like you are going to a wedding party without the tux.
d) Dress appropriately - women - please leave the sundresses at the beach. Don't wear them in city, maybe ok in a small village
e) Men - leave the shorts/trunks at the beach. Please wear collared shirts and tucked into long pants in city.

Your mother, as old as she is, knows the dress code - follow it!
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Old 03-08-2014, 01:34 AM
 
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Well there wasnt anything that I noticed about St Lucia people, other than they were very poor, but they seemed to dress the same ways poor folks dress in United States.

Understand that if im black im EXPECTED to observe THE RULES? What rules are you talking about? I thought most of Jamaica was black, has the population changed?

People in the Caribbean assume that you are a West Indian, or that black Americans have similar values.

They will not make allowances for you walking around semi nude, or not saying "good morning", as they might for a white tourist. They consider white tourists to be at best weird, at worst half mad, but they spend money so their oddities are tolerated. Sorry to say that unless the particular white person is very friendly, and/or very interesting, or comes from an unusual country like Greece, they are seen as walking wallets. People need to earn a living and so know that being nice to them allows this.

Black people are expected to know better. They feel that you come from a culture similar to theirs, and so have similar values, and so are expected to know how to behave. Allowances like the military attire will be excused, as they will assume that you don't know the rules, and probably know that it isn't illegal in the USA. Excessively informal attire, or brusque behavior, will not be. You will find that Jamaicans are more forward than St Lucians, so are more likely to let you know what they think of you.

Just the facts. As a West Indian I hear the comments, and I am some one who grew up in the Caribbean, so I will hear things that you might not.


You asked about the rules and I gave you some. If you decide that you know it all and don't need advise well don't ask for it then. But don't parade around looking like a "tourist" and not expect comments to be made about you. Just my 2 cents.

And understand that St Lucia is nice, maybe because they are a tourist destination. In some other parts of the Caribbean walking around in military attire will result in spend some time in a police station, and not because they are telling you to enjoy your vacation either. In countries with high crime, the last thing that they want are criminals impersonating soldiers.

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Old 07-18-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Orange Blossom Trail
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Ok so i will be traveling to Jamaica next week. What would be the cheapest way to do the money exchange, should I change it over in the States prior to getting there, or go there with US dollars and exchange it there
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Old 07-20-2014, 02:55 AM
 
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Don't call anyone a blood clot.
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Old 07-20-2014, 09:58 AM
 
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People in the Caribbean assume that you are a West Indian, or that black Americans have similar values.

They will not make allowances for you walking around semi nude, or not saying "good morning", as they might for a white tourist. They consider white tourists to be at best weird, at worst half mad, but they spend money so their oddities are tolerated. Sorry to say that unless the particular white person is very friendly, and/or very interesting, or comes from an unusual country like Greece, they are seen as walking wallets. People need to earn a living and so know that being nice to them allows this.

Black people are expected to know better. They feel that you come from a culture similar to theirs, and so have similar values, and so are expected to know how to behave. Allowances like the military attire will be excused, as they will assume that you don't know the rules, and probably know that it isn't illegal in the USA. Excessively informal attire, or brusque behavior, will not be. You will find that Jamaicans are more forward than St Lucians, so are more likely to let you know what they think of you.

Just the facts. As a West Indian I hear the comments, and I am some one who grew up in the Caribbean, so I will hear things that you might not.


You asked about the rules and I gave you some. If you decide that you know it all and don't need advise well don't ask for it then. But don't parade around looking like a "tourist" and not expect comments to be made about you. Just my 2 cents.

And understand that St Lucia is nice, maybe because they are a tourist destination. In some other parts of the Caribbean walking around in military attire will result in spend some time in a police station, and not because they are telling you to enjoy your vacation either. In countries with high crime, the last thing that they want are criminals impersonating soldiers.

It sounds like the rural US in 40s or 50s. I never would have expected that.
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