Arizona is one of the top 5 states liberals are moving to (Maricopa: how much, new house)

[LordBalfor]

Originally Posted by GHOSTRIDER AZ

I Independent and most Arizonians like my self take a dim view of Peace,Love Dope, Liberal crowd. Arizona has never been a hand out state and most people work very hard in raising their families. The reason why Liberals are moving to Arizona is because their fallen states Like California can not offer the freedoms to a level of descent living.



I Miss the Desert and will return. Let me tell you Money is not everything and where you live and how you live is more important.

Do not worry Arizona, one summer of 115 degrees will send these liberals back to SF and LA where they belong. That what I love about the Valley, Summer heat send right back to Ohio and New York!

That must be why AZ has the 6th fastest-growing population in the nation eh? ...because they head right back to Ohio and New York?

I'd take the heat over cold ANY DAY - and I'm not alone.

Sorry, but the huge continuing increases in the Arizona population tend to shoot your theory down,

Ken

[autism360]

Originally Posted by LordBalfor

For the - what is it, the THIRD TIME? - I DID show my source. Can you not read, or did you not even bother. It's RIGHT HERE:

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/2012-...taOneSheet.pdf

Top 5 states (gaining the most people): Texas, Florida, South Carolina, COLORADO, North Carolina.
Bottom 5 states (losing the most people): PENNSYLVANIA, NEW JERSEY, California, Illinois, New York

The states that are capitalized have (or had at the time of the data collection) a GOP governor. New Jersey does have 2 Democratic Senators, but 6 of its' 12 U.S. Congressmen are Republicans. Combined with it's GOP governor, how does that make it a Democratic bastion?

In the case of Pennsylvania, at the time of the data collection is had a GOP Governor and it has a GOP MAJORITY in both the state Senate and the state House. At the Federal level PA has one Democratic Senator and one GOP Senator, and in the U.S. House it has 5 Democrats and 13 GOP members.
So how does that make Pennsylvania any kind of Democratic bastion?

So TWO of the top 5 "losing states" not really Blue at all - and one of them is clearly pretty Red, with the GOP dominating BOTH it's state houses and it's representation in D.C.
As I said earlier, one can make just as good a case that the folks in question are leaving the north for south for the WEATHER as they can that they are leaving the north for the south because of POLITICS - the correlation is just as strong. The fact is neither you nor the authors of the articles in question have any idea of WHY the migration is happening - you and they are simply jumping to a conclusion without any consideration of OTHER differences between the "losing" and "winning" states, so I wouldn't gloat too much that folks from those states that ARE blue are moving to those states that ARE red. You have NO IDEA of the political leanings of those folks heading south - or WHY they are moving south. Lots of those folks are moving south for the WEATHER - and many of them are no doubt BLUE. Those states that ARE red, will very likely start to turn PURPLE as folks from those cold northern states head for warmer winters.

Ken

Yes even the liberal are seeing how destructive liberal policies are and have made efforts to change things but when a state has been liberal for a long time it is an up hill battle turning that ship around.

Oh so now you want to call LIBERAL states Conservative states that is laughable
Pennsylvania has not voted for a republican President since 1992
New Jersey lib state
California lib state
Illinois the liberal state
New York liberal state

It is interesting how many of the Gop Governors that were elected have made huge stride towards helping their state go from being in debt to having surpluses,which would be a great topic for another thread

The Gallup poll found Massachusetts, Vermont and Hawaii to be the most left-leaning states, while Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana were the most conservative.

In New Jersey, roughly a quarter of residents identified as liberal. That percentage ranked the Garden State as the 10th most liberal in the nation, according to the poll.

Pennsylvania, like neighboring New Jersey, has swung from being a Republican-leaning state during much of the 20th century to a more competitive state in national presidential elections. Pennsylvania has backed the Democratic presidential candidate in every election since 1992.

[AllenSJC]

Originally Posted by autism360

Oh so now you want to call LIBERAL states Conservative states that is laughable
Pennsylvania has not voted for a republican President since 1992
New Jersey lib state
California lib state
Illinois the liberal state
New York liberal state

Just because the majority of voters in those states vote Democratic doesn't mean that everyone in those states are raging liberals. There are plenty of Republicans in all of those states.

[AzScorpion12]

Originally Posted by AllenSJC

Just because the majority of voters in those states vote Democratic doesn't mean that everyone in those states are raging liberals. There are plenty of Republicans in all of those states.

True,but we're slowly escaping as we're sick of how our states are being over-run with liberal policies that only increase taxes and everything else on us middle class workers.

[autism360]

Originally Posted by AllenSJC

Just because the majority of voters in those states vote Democratic doesn't mean that everyone in those states are raging liberals. There are plenty of Republicans in all of those states.

There may be republicans in those states but liberal states are controlled by groups and organizations that are socialist/communist, anti-religion, against individual freedoms, pro government control of everything, since that is in fact the liberal philosophy.

[Champ le monstre du lac]

Originally Posted by autism360

There may be republicans in those states but liberal states are controlled by groups and organizations that are socialist/communist, anti-religion, against individual freedoms, pro government control of everything, since that is in fact the liberal philosophy.

Left or right, I'm certainly happy I don't wake up in the morning with a big political chip on my shoulder seeing the world as black and white. The us vs. them mentality. Life's too short to be consumed by such affairs.

[autism360]

Originally Posted by Desert_SW_77

Left or right, I'm certainly happy I don't wake up in the morning with a big political chip on my shoulder seeing the world as black and white. The us vs. them mentality. Life's too short to be consumed by such affairs.

I see things differently, and I am sure many that knew Anne Frank and Oskar Schindler were glad they saw things differently as well.

Edmund Burke
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.

[New Horizons]

Originally Posted by Desert_SW_77

Left or right, I'm certainly happy I don't wake up in the morning with a big political chip on my shoulder seeing the world as black and white. The us vs. them mentality. Life's too short to be consumed by such affairs.

True dat

[SageCats]

I do not consider myself neither Republican nor Democrat. I am an independent voter. Why must everything be black and white? What happened to people being a little bit of both? Why MUST I be religious if I tend to have fiscally conservative views? Why MUST I believe in the government controlling everything if I believe in marriage equality? Can't I be fiscally conservative and believe in marriage equality? Can't I support the 2nd amendment and be pro-choice? Can't I be an atheist who owns a 12 gauge shotgun and supports public education?
I feel alienated by the current political climate.

[JGMotorsport64]

Originally Posted by autism360

I see things differently, and I am sure many that knew Anne Frank and Oskar Schindler were glad they saw things differently as well.

So in your mind Liberals are akin to Nazis, and you're acting as Schindler to save the Frank's from them?

Some of the things you post...