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Old 03-19-2008, 03:26 AM
 
Location: phoenix, *****.
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c'mon people.. a moat? seriously? what a way to spend our tax money... grow up.
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Old 03-19-2008, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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Ill propose this instead: barbed wire rolls 15 yards deep, followed by 15 yards of razorwire, followed by a landmine field, then the moat (which is infested with pirahna and crocs), then another minefield on the other side, followed by more razorwire and barbed wire, then some armed Border Patrol agents waiting for all those who amazingly made it through. Sound good?
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Old 03-19-2008, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania USA
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Ill propose this instead: barbed wire rolls 15 yards deep, followed by 15 yards of razorwire, followed by a landmine field, then the moat (which is infested with pirahna and crocs), then another minefield on the other side, followed by more razorwire and barbed wire, then some armed Border Patrol agents waiting for all those who amazingly made it through. Sound good?
Just a little bit of overkill. Let's dispense with the land mine field.
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Old 03-19-2008, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Default Need Help from Resident of Arizona

Hi there-

I'm a criminology student in Georgia and I'm writing a paper citing a particular case in Maricopa County. I've tried everything I can think of to get info on this and I'm getting nowhere. I can give you all the particulars of the case, at least what I have so far and maybe someone with a big heart could help??

This was a triple murder in September of either 2004 or 2005. Three young people living in a condo were shot execution style by supposedly 2 young men, Ryan Buckman and Michael Walton. As far as I know, they are in jail awaiting trial.

If you know of this case or have any info you could send my way, I sure would appreciate it!

Thanks-

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Old 03-19-2008, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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If you want to contact me at my direct email address that is fine. Sorry I didn't leave it before.

Thank you to anyone in Arizona who can help me.
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Old 03-20-2008, 08:40 AM
 
Location: 5 miles from the center of the universe-The Superstition Mountains
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Hi there-

I'm a criminology student in Georgia and I'm writing a paper citing a particular case in Maricopa County. I've tried everything I can think of to get info on this and I'm getting nowhere. I can give you all the particulars of the case, at least what I have so far and maybe someone with a big heart could help??

This was a triple murder in September of either 2004 or 2005. Three young people living in a condo were shot execution style by supposedly 2 young men, Ryan Buckman and Michael Walton. As far as I know, they are in jail awaiting trial.

If you know of this case or have any info you could send my way, I sure would appreciate it!

Thanks-

Here's a start for you...

Phoenix]Phoenix - News

"One of many cases in which meth allegedly provided the actual motive for murder happened in September 2004, when three young Phoenix residents were shot to death in their condo near Seventh Street and Bethany Home Road.

A year later, last September 13, police arrested 22-year-old Michael Craig Walton on first-degree homicide charges. Prosecutors have alleged that Walton murdered the trio after smoking meth with them, then stole the remaining stash and some money. (The murderer also shot a pit bull in the head, but the dog survived.)

Toxicological testing by the medical examiner confirms that the victims -- two men and a woman -- had used meth shortly before they were murdered. "This is a perfect example of the violence that goes hand-in-hand with that kind of drug," Phoenix police Detective Tony Morales said shortly after the murders."
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btwells // Triple-slaying suspect freed

Suspected re-arrested in 3 slayings (broken link)
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Old 03-20-2008, 08:56 AM
 
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I like the moat idea but doubt that it would do what it would be intended to do. All this country has to do is remove the "percs," take away the incentives like all the freebies and they would have no reason to come here. Seems pretty elemental to me -- why not the politicians except for all the illegal votes they get. And we would probably be able to balance the budget over night.

They will still bring drugs in. Removing "perks" only works for some of them.
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:42 PM
 
Location: In the North Idaho woods, still surrounded by terriers
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It's not the perks as much as the jobs. People who hire them are the main fault
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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Seriously...A moat in Arizona? Waste of Water and Money...
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Old 03-21-2008, 09:58 PM
 
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Seriously...A moat in Arizona? Waste of Water and Money...
It just shows how desperate citizens are to take back their country and get rid of the problems from those crossing illegally. I don't know what has to happen in order to get someone in Washington to listen to what is happening at the borders.

Lots of excuses from the politicians and not much help for the border states. Maybe a moat would get some attention and make those in power feel like idiots about how they are handling the problem.

altus2006
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