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Old 04-20-2014, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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because China is a big country with rich history and high pride. It is unimaginable for such a country to adopt a foreign religion as its national religion, or a God of a difference skin colour.

For China to become Christian is like for hamburgers to become the national food. Completely impossible.

In history, China only exports its culture to neighbours (all Asian countries are heavily influenced by the Chinese culture). It imports some also, but nothing foreign has the chance to dominate. China's culture is too deep and broad to allow that from happening. China will never be as westernized as small countries such as Singapore.

People on this board often use westernized as a positive word. In China, it is viewed differently. The young generation is only "westernized" on a very superficial level.
I know it's a long time ago but what about Buddhism?

Dunno if you know but there's some people who believe that the Chinese Shangdi is synonymous with the Hebrew Yahweh. Of course if there is one God, though, there's no reason why it would be just the Chinese, but not also Vishu, Zeus etc maybe.
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Old 04-20-2014, 10:40 AM
 
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Why would the fact Jesus is Jewish be a problem for them? It didn't bother Christians in Africa, for instance.
Jewish people are highly regarded by the Chinese people. But as already said, it is unlikely that China would adopt Christianity as a national religion.
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Old 04-20-2014, 05:19 PM
 
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Buddhism is from India, Marxism is from Europe. Hong Xiuquan was successful in getting followers to his cult. There were Chinese leaders who were Christian. IMHO, I do not see Jesus Christ being white as the major impediment to proselytizing in China. They are successful in South Korea, who seem to have the most issues among Asians when intermarrying outside their ethnic group. Rather, I still think it is the Communist Party that will block any mass conversion. Not the Communist ideology which is pretty much dead but as the Communist Party is still in power, they can do whatever it takes to avoid any religious groups that they are not comfortable with.
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Old 04-20-2014, 06:30 PM
 
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lol, rejecting Christianity because Jesus was a "caucasian" is rather silly. I think Jesus was a swell guy. Rejecting Abrahamic religious thought on the ground that its utterly ludicrous and logically nonsensical is more than enough.
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Old 04-20-2014, 06:34 PM
 
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lol, rejecting Christianity because Jesus was a "caucasian" is rather silly. I think Jesus was a swell guy. Rejecting Abrahamic religious thought on the ground that its utterly ludicrous and logically nonsensical is more than enough.
Do you feel there is something about Abrahamic religion that will never sit well with the Indian psyche/worldview? (notwithstanding those who have converted to Islam or Christianity). I mean it seems neither Buddhism, or Islam or Christianity was ever able to usurp the ancient Brahmic folk beliefs that are classified under the term 'Hinduism', a religion older than any other major religion today.

I mean everything from linear time, the fact we only get one shot at life (which determines our eternal destiny) etc...
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Old 04-20-2014, 06:42 PM
 
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because China is a big country with rich history and high pride. It is unimaginable for such a country to adopt a foreign religion as its national religion, or a God of a difference skin colour.
You must not know about the history of China if you think Christianity is "foreign" to the country or the rest of Asia. It's one thing to be bias but another to be oblivious. Christianity in China goes back to the Tang dynasty.
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Old 04-20-2014, 07:07 PM
 
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because China is a big country with rich history and high pride. It is unimaginable for such a country to adopt a foreign religion as its national religion, or a God of a difference skin colour.

For China to become Christian is like for hamburgers to become the national food. Completely impossible.

In history, China only exports its culture to neighbours (all Asian countries are heavily influenced by the Chinese culture). It imports some also, but nothing foreign has the chance to dominate. China's culture is too deep and broad to allow that from happening. China will never be as westernized as small countries such as Singapore.

People on this board often use westernized as a positive word. In China, it is viewed differently. The young generation is only "westernized" on a very superficial level.
Are you serious? Are you oblivious to Chinese history? Where do you think Buddhism comes from? China? Lol....no my kind sir. Buddhism, that "traditional Asian" religion, actually originated in India, and the Buddha was an Indian man. He definitely did not look Asian like the Chinese do.
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Old 04-20-2014, 07:22 PM
 
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You must not know about the history of China if you think Christianity is "foreign" to the country or the rest of Asia. It's one thing to be bias but another to be oblivious. Christianity in China goes back to the Tang dynasty.
Actually Nestorians brought Christianity to China in the 5th century, although of course it didn't leave much of an impact. St Thomas is supposed to have brought Christianity to India as early as the 3rd century AD, in present day Kerala, and there is a Syrian Orthodox Church there to this day.
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Old 04-20-2014, 07:29 PM
 
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Do you feel there is something about Abrahamic religion that will never sit well with the Indian psyche/worldview? (notwithstanding those who have converted to Islam or Christianity). I mean it seems neither Buddhism, or Islam or Christianity was ever able to usurp the ancient Brahmic folk beliefs that are classified under the term 'Hinduism', a religion older than any other major religion today.

I mean everything from linear time, the fact we only get one shot at life (which determines our eternal destiny) etc...
It's Hindu because of its history. Certainly most people who are Hindus now would not convert, but there's nothing special about people in India that makes it impossible for them to be converted to another religion. Java, Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Goa were converted from Hinduism, and so too were rich polytheist cultures in Egypt converted. No, there is nothing special about India, it was simply spared by history due to the influence of the British East Indian Trading Company which blessedly cared more about pragmatically making money then about shoving religion down peoples' throats.
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Old 04-20-2014, 07:35 PM
 
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It's Hindu because of its history. Certainly most people who are Hindus now would not convert, but there's nothing special about people in India that makes it impossible for them to be converted to another religion. Java, Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Goa were converted from Hinduism, and so too were rich polytheist cultures in Egypt converted. No, there is nothing special about India, it was simply spared by history due to the influence of the British East Indian Trading Company which blessedly cared more about pragmatically making money then about shoving religion down peoples' throats.
I guess I mean it's great age, the traditionalism.etc of the culture. Sure there are a lot of Muslims throughout India today, but it never became close to becoming an Islamic state, even with a lot of Islamic influence in the arts and culture. But yes, of course people can be converted, but it would take a lot to overturn 5,000 years of tradition. Buddhism has been in China for over 2,000 years, so is a bit difference. Buddhism was started to dominate India at one point, but the Brahmins felt they would lose power so cracked down on it.
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