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Old 06-14-2015, 11:15 AM
 
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There is not a single Atheist I have ever debated on the subject of Christianity that can maintain logical thinking. At some point they will embrace fallacies in attempt to forward their argument. I'm far superior Christian debater than anyone I know and anyone you ever met.
Sorry, but no. You're not. You're average at best. Same bag of tricks as most Christians - make vague, sweeping declarations, and then when people challenge those statements, you say, "no, you're wrong, because I'm smarter than you are." That's not debating, and it's certainly nothing we haven't seen before from countless other Christians.
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Old 06-14-2015, 11:23 AM
 
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Sorry, but no. You're not. You're average at best. Same bag of tricks as most Christians - make vague, sweeping declarations, and then when people challenge those statements, you say, "no, you're wrong, because I'm smarter than you are." That's not debating, and it's certainly nothing we haven't seen before from countless other Christians.
I just make a distinction between arguing and debating and when I exercise that distinction it tends to make those in the arguing camp a bit infuriated.
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Old 06-14-2015, 11:36 AM
 
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Strawman
Moderator cut: Removing references to vaccinations.

Face it, you've got nothing - nothing but delusional beliefs in an angry desert god and, apparently, way too much free time if you actually think your laughable posts in a forum devoted to skeptics are worth anything to anyone.

I'll say it again - you're one of the worst excuses for a debater I've ever seen. Grow up.

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Old 06-14-2015, 12:27 PM
 
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Article by a lawyer? Albany Law Journal of Science & Technology?

From the critique included in the article.
The quote I provided was from the: National Academy of Science Institute of Medicine (IOM) Immunization Safety Committee
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Old 06-14-2015, 12:31 PM
 
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That doesn't square with the bold, below:



Almost all kids then alive got vaccinated for polio during that time frame, so almost everyone supposedly has/will have cancer?
I don't know where you get the "almost everyone" statistic at? Can you quote that from what I presented?
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Old 06-14-2015, 12:47 PM
 
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^^I can't find any old stats. I was, however, alive then. This vaccine was a train-stopper! Everyone wanted it for their kids. It became part of the routine immunization schedule shortly after it was released in 1955. Federal assistance began for immunizations then, too, so people could afford it.
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Old 06-14-2015, 12:56 PM
 
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^^I can't find any old stats. I was, however, alive then. This vaccine was a train-stopper! Everyone wanted it for their kids. It became part of the routine immunization schedule shortly after it was released in 1955. Federal assistance began for immunizations then, too, so people could afford it.
Historic Dates and Events Related to Vaccines and Immunization
No kidding. If you saw the people with polio in Iron Lungs, you know why everyone wanted to be vaccinated. People who live now when these diseases have been eradicated in the first world countries have no idea.

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Alexander, 67, is a victim of the worst that polio had to offer children in the late 1940s and early 1950s. At the age of 6, he was completely paralyzed by the disease, his lungs stopped working, and he was literally thrown into an iron lung.
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Old 06-14-2015, 12:57 PM
 
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Below is the topic of this thread.

Any further posts about vaccinations, the origin of life, the definition of God, etc., will probably result in infractions.



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I feel like it sure seems that way in North America at least. If you go on Youtube atheists are always talking about how the Bible is silly and can't be true, how there's no historical Jesus, etc. I feel that a Hindu, Buddhist, Shinto, Muslim, Sikh, Jain, or Orthodox Jew could follow an atheist TV show and agree with 99% of what the hosts are saying.

I can see why this is psychologically. Most atheists in America are raised in a Protestant Christian culture and actively reject it. Many were formerly Christians themselves and thus understand Christianity the most.

But I wonder why it's uncommon for atheists to talk about how the Qu'ran is a rant of a madman or how Hinduism is a collection of fairy tales or how kosher laws are racist. What about promoting atheism and secular humanism in countries dominated by Islam? There are billions of innocent people: children and women under patriarchy, who are being abused because of religion. Why not fight for their rights? Is it because it's less politically correct to talk about non-Americans and non-Christians? Or is it simply because American atheists feel like they can achieve more in their own country by acting locally, where the people in power are mainly Christian?
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Old 06-14-2015, 01:38 PM
 
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So do you have a god for the origin of life? I presume you will say no. So this would mean that not ALL men that can't explain something create a god to explain those things they can't explain. Would you agree?
Note Mensai's post. This has to be continued in a tailor-made thread - preferably on R/S.
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Old 06-14-2015, 06:03 PM
 
Location: USA
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To bring this back on topic before this thread is - hopefully - locked:

Nearly all atheists used to be part of a major religion. Eventually, they reached the point where they could no longer tolerant the often narrow and nonsensical beliefs being foisted upon them, up to and including things that have nothing to do with the religion (bigotry, hatred of science, etc.) So, they left.

Do they hate religion? Some do, some don't - but none of them have any love for people who continue to try to force their own religious beliefs upon others, or people who use "my religion says so!" as an excuse to justify everything from bigotry to ignorance to a refusal to respect anyone else's points of view.
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