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Old 01-01-2010, 08:17 PM
 
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And when does anyone guess that the OP will actually re-emerge on this thread? Baiting troll like behavior at best.
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Alot of religious people get divorced too....what's the religious meaning behind that?
Mmmmm... how 'bout "OMG - I thought I loved you but actually I hate your guts" ?

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Old 01-03-2010, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Alot of religious people get divorced too....what's the religious meaning behind that?
Yeah, I think the OP was trying to state that marriage is religious.
That's absolute hogwash.

When someone gets divorced, they do it in civil courts, not a church.
Marriage is a civil contract.
The local government permits religious people to marry people.
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Old 01-03-2010, 06:43 PM
 
Location: NC, USA
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Why? Do you think misery is exclusive to the religious
Hummmmm, sometimes it does seem to be a prerequisite to christianity.
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Old 01-04-2010, 03:48 AM
 
Location: Southern NC
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Yeah, I think the OP was trying to state that marriage is religious.
That's absolute hogwash.

When someone gets divorced, they do it in civil courts, not a church.
Marriage is a civil contract.
The local government permits religious people to marry people.

Yeah...I got that... I was making a point to the OP.
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Old 01-04-2010, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Pasadena CA
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Marriage only makes sense as a religious ritual.
I see that you want to play the semantics game, huh?
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Old 01-04-2010, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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As a married agnostic, I have to respectfully disagree. There isn't a trace of religion in our union nor does it have to be. What would a god have to do with our marriage anyway?

Absolutely nothing.

P.S. We also took non-religous vows.
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Old 01-05-2010, 03:01 AM
 
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Marriage only makes sense as a religious ritual.
Marriage is, in this country and other areas of the world, a government institution that a portion of the populace prefers to enact utilizing religious wedding cerimonies. Even if a religious wedding cerimony is involved, it is still a governemtn institution if presided over by a State Licensed Marriage Officient, be they clergy or not. Wedding cerimonies, it is important to note, are seperate from marriage, they are merely a means of becoming legally married.

Also, religion didn't invent marriage, nor has religion always been included in marriages, even in Christianized western areas.

Marriage bestows upon the couple over a thousand plus rights and privliages, including visitation rights, joint custody of children and joint ownership of property, power-of-attorny should a spouse become incapacitated, and certain tax brackets and classifications. It merely creates a familial bond, for legal purposes, greater than any other. Your spouse legally becomes your next-of-kin.

So, your question should be "Why WOULDN"T Atheists get married".
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Old 01-05-2010, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Oxford, England
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Love. Simply a human ritual a loud and official declaration of a relationship. It took me 21 years to get me to the non-altar because it felt right to us. It was a completely non religious ceremony , in a non relgious setting and I can't say it has changed our relationship in the slightest so far but we humans do like a ritual. And a Wedding is a good excuse for a party with a nice frock .

Marriage has nothing to do with religion. It is simply a symbol. Symbols are potent for the vast majority of humans. And of course let's not forget the pragmatic aspect. For example until I was married 3 months ago I was not entitled to my beloved's pension nor entitled to be his next of kin under the stupid law which decreed our Love somehow invalid because we were not married. Even though we have been together, in Love and faithful to each other for over 2 decades.

Apparently having a one night stand and getting married in Vegas makes you more worthy in the eyes of the Law....

Laws based on ancient principles of religion. Marriage : good. Living in "sin" : bad. What a lot of hooey.
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Old 01-05-2010, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there
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Marriage only makes sense as a religious ritual.
So: You are what: a youngster? Troll? Unmarried juvenile?

Marriage amongst the aboriginals, like the Inuit?

My own marriage: an essentially public announcement between two dedicated atheist individuals who wished to pledge their love and mutual support. Not necessary, of course, but desired by some.

Now, as regards the church, they often do require just such a ceremony, under the eyes of their god, to make the resulting cohabitation OK with the congregation, those bunch of old whispering biddies who gather in the church kitchen later to gossip and denounce. Or "bless".

Depends on how serious you take the social contract. And the implications within your particular culture and social surrounds.

(OH Wait! What's that pounding on my door? Why, it's The Religious Police!!! Now I'm done for!)
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