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Old 08-11-2012, 02:19 PM
 
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All ya gotta do is tear down all those country looking single family houses and build some rowhouses, do it the east coast way!
Why in tarnation didn't somebody bring up row houses 100 years ago? We could have gotten a huge jump on this urban thing.

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Old 08-11-2012, 02:35 PM
 
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Why in tarnation didn't somebody bring up row houses 100 years ago? We could have gotten a huge jump on this urban thing.

I also think some don't understand that higher residential densities a la rowhouses weren't historically needed in Atlanta because the city isn't geographically constrained. We can stretch out a little because we've got the land to do so.
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Midtown Atlanta
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Why in tarnation didn't somebody bring up row houses 100 years ago? We could have gotten a huge jump on this urban thing.

Atlanta's sole example of 19th century rowhouses is Baltimore Block.

Simply put, Atlantans didn't build rowhouses because they didn't have to. Land was plentiful enough for single family homes, and that was the preference.
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:26 PM
 
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All ya gotta do is tear down all those country looking single family houses and build some rowhouses, do it the east coast way!
Tear down are historic dense single homes architecture range from Victorian, to American bungalow to try to copy other cities really? Most American cities especially midwest cities are balance between dense single homes with apartments and towhouse. I want Atlanta to become more urban but if the plan is to take the city character away it's not right. This why I have a bone to pick with folks who say Atlanta has no history and character or the city has an identity crisis because really they miss the understand of the city by looking for something else.

I say this because it easy to suggest tear down blocks if you view the city with a lack of character, culture and value. I can't help people if they misunderstand the city history and culture or misunderstood the identity of city. But the city heritage shouldn't be destroy because some folks don't understand it. As I said I want to become more but there's nothing wrong with the city now. Everything below is likely over 75 years old, some above 100 years. This are just single homes I left out commerical bulidings, water tower, industrial stuff and etc that dive the city vibe also. just intown


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Looks like New Orleans? No. looks like Cleveland? No, looks like Seattle? No, looks like Phoenix? No, looks like minneapolis? no. looks like DC? no. looks like Miami, San Francisco, Chicago, and LA? hell no. Does Atlanta looks like Charlotte, Nashville, Memphis, and Birmingham only if you can't get pass regional similarity I tell right now Atlanta is more gritty and industrial than Charlotte and Nashville, but more white collar than Memphis and Birmingham. So What does Atlanta look like? I be dang Atlanta pretty much looks like Atlanta. but lets tear it down and build New Philly
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Old 08-11-2012, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Columbia has proposed a TOD on the sprawling south parking lot of Edgewood/Candler Park station. The bus bay would be preserved but parking resident and commuter parking would be in a garage. Most users at this station walk or use buses.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:29 PM
 
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Tear down are historic dense single homes architecture range from Victorian, to American bungalow to try to copy other cities really? Most American cities especially midwest cities are balance between dense single homes with apartments and towhouse. I want Atlanta to become more urban but if the plan is to take the city character away it's not right. This why I have a bone to pick with folks who say Atlanta has no history and character or the city has an identity crisis because really they miss the understand of the city by looking for something else.

I say this because it easy to suggest tear down blocks if you view the city with a lack of character, culture and value. I can't help people if they misunderstand the city history and culture or misunderstood the identity of city. But the city heritage shouldn't be destroy because some folks don't understand it. As I said I want to become more but there's nothing wrong with the city now. Everything below is likely over 75 years old, some above 100 years. This are just single homes I left out commerical bulidings, water tower, industrial stuff and etc that dive the city vibe also. just intown


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and etc,

Looks like New Orleans? No. looks like Cleveland? No, looks like Seattle? No, looks like Phoenix? No, looks like minneapolis? no. looks like DC? no. looks like Miami, San Francisco, Chicago, and LA? hell no. Does Atlanta looks like Charlotte, Nashville, Memphis, and Birmingham only if you can't get pass regional similarity I tell right now Atlanta is more gritty and industrial than Charlotte and Nashville, but more white collar than Memphis and Birmingham. So What does Atlanta look like? I be dang Atlanta pretty much looks like Atlanta. but lets tear it down and build New Philly

Oh my god, Atlanta is, like, so pretty!
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Old 08-11-2012, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Eastwatch by the sea
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Wow! You couldn't pay me to enter that camp, jack! I'd be afraid that a panther, a bear, honey badger, squirrel monkey, or some other silent creature would attack me! The greenery around the city is aesthetically pleasing, like that there. However, it also provides a place for furry creatures and the like to hide and subsequently POUNCE! YES, I'm afraid of animals! That said, I am not in favor of clearing natural settings. I DO prefer to avoid them.
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Old 08-12-2012, 06:51 AM
 
Location: International Spacestation
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All ya gotta do is tear down all those country looking single family houses and build some rowhouses, do it the east coast way!
Atlanta must build UP not out.
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Old 08-12-2012, 07:01 AM
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Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Old 08-12-2012, 07:02 AM
 
Location: International Spacestation
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Agreed. On a related note, I have been wondering:
Why isn't there more mixed-use development at MARTA rail stations?

The MARTA Fact Sheet states, "MARTA operates an award-winning Transit Oriented Development program, which encourages commercial, residential and retail development around rail stations to increase transit ridership. The program includes Lindbergh City Center – its nationally recognized TOD."

They are correct that Lindbergh is a success story. Recently I found a report from 2009 ARC (Atlanta Regional Commission) where they surveyed transit riders during the AM and PM rush hours. I added up the people who got on each station in the morning and departed at that station in the evening. This is a proxy for where people who ride MARTA live, or "home" as opposed to "work" stations.

The top "home" stations for AM boardings and PM departures are:
1. Five Points
2. College Park
3. North Springs
4. Lindbergh Center
5. Indian Creek
6. H.E. Holmes
7. Kensington
8. Doraville

Aside from the hub (Five Points) and the end-of-the-line park-and-ride stations, Lindbergh is the top performing source of MARTA rail riders during rush hour.

The lowest-performing "home" stations (out of 38) include:
31. Edgewood / Candler Park
30. East Lake
19. Brookhaven

The stations on the east line between Georgia State and Decatur get relatively little usage (with the exception of moderate ridership originating from Inman Park, #16).

These low-performing stations are surrounded by huge park-and-ride surface lots, and are located in some of the more desirable ITP neighborhoods. Based on the success of Lindbergh, I wonder why MARTA and developers haven't partnered to build on these stations. I would imagine mid-rise development, with street-level retail and apts/condos or offices upstairs. It need not be on the scale of Atlantic Station or Lindbergh. If I lived near one of these stations, I would personally rather see shops and restaurants than acres of surface parking.

If you live near one of these lower-performing MARTA stations, what kind of development would you support at your local MARTA stop?
If. You notice most of those or terminal stations. & splitter stations. If they had a station in cobb it ould trump both north springs & Doraville easy, because of that I75 traffic.
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