Petition wants Stone Mt. Confederate carving removed (Decatur, Stone Mountain: buy, costs)

[Ant131531]

Only in the South will you find threads and controversies such as this. Only in the God dang South.

[Robbyb03]

Originally Posted by arjay57

The argument that the Civil War was fought for states rights seems disingenuous to me, since the "right" in question was the alleged authority to continue the practice of human slavery.

You're completely wrong about slavery being the driving force behind the War of Northern Aggression. It was an economics war, plan and simple. The North wanted to force the south to buy their products and limit trade with other countries. Look at the tariff rates leading up to the war as one example. Stop believing this propaganda that is spewed about slavery being the reason behind the war because it is FAR from the truth...

[Robbyb03]

Originally Posted by afonega1

Do you even know what the word racism means?Its absolutely ludicrous that you would somehow try to equate this attempt as somehow being a "reverse racism " type thing.

So a Confederate monument is being discussed about being "removed" and you don't see the connection that certain groups of people are trying to make by trying to connect a historical monument to the enslavement of blacks? It is a historical monument and the only reason reason it is being discussed about being removed is because Southerners are displayed on the side of Stone Mountain. If Northerners, aka the "great slave freerers," were displayed, we wouldn't be having this discussion...

[ATLTJL]

Ignore the above poster.

Nobody calls the Civil War the War of Northern Aggression unless they are just trolling trying to stir a pot.

This person is just trying to get a response. Don't give him the satisfaction.

[afonega1]

Originally Posted by Robbyb03

So a Confederate monument is being discussed about being "removed" and you don't see the connection that certain groups of people are trying to make by trying to connect a historical monument to the enslavement of blacks? It is a historical monument and the only reason reason it is being discussed about being removed is because Southerners are displayed on the side of Stone Mountain. If Northerners, aka the "great slave freerers," were displayed, we wouldn't be having this discussion...

Ok.

[afonega1]

Originally Posted by ATLTJL

Ignore the above poster.

Nobody calls the Civil War the War of Northern Aggression unless they are just trolling trying to stir a pot.

This person is just trying to get a response. Don't give him the satisfaction.

Way ahead of you but thanks.

[JoeTarheel]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

Only in the South will you find threads and controversies such as this. Only in the God dang South.

What? Controversies where one group is offended by something that another group supports? I think that is common all over the world. I gather from your comment that you're above all this.

[Newsboy]

People who use the phrase "War of Northern Agression" to downplay slavery's role in the Civil War are on the same level as those who deny the Holocaust ...

[JoeTarheel]

Originally Posted by Newsboy

People who use the phrase "War of Northern Agression" to downplay slavery's role in the Civil War are on the same level as those who deny the Holocaust ...

I have heard people use the phrase jokingly...but obviously it wasn't intended as a joke in this case.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by Robbyb03

You're completely wrong about slavery being the driving force behind the War of Northern Aggression.

Well, let's see how the state of Georgia explained its motivations at the time. Here's the opening paragraph of Georgia's official Declaration of Secession in 1861:

The people of Georgia having dissolved their political connection with the Government of the United States of America, present to their confederates and the world the causes which have led to the separation. For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery. They have endeavored to weaken our security, to disturb our domestic peace and tranquility, and persistently refused to comply with their express constitutional obligations to us in reference to that property, and by the use of their power in the Federal Government have striven to deprive us of an equal enjoyment of the common Territories of the Republic. This hostile policy of our confederates has been pursued with every circumstance of aggravation which could arouse the passions and excite the hatred of our people, and has placed the two sections of the Union for many years past in the condition of virtual civil war. Our people, still attached to the Union from habit and national traditions, and averse to change, hoped that time, reason, and argument would bring, if not redress, at least exemption from further insults, injuries, and dangers. Recent events have fully dissipated all such hopes and demonstrated the necessity of separation. Our Northern confederates, after a full and calm hearing of all the facts, after a fair warning of our purpose not to submit to the rule of the authors of all these wrongs and injuries, have by a large majority committed the Government of the United States into their hands. The people of Georgia, after an equally full and fair and deliberate hearing of the case, have declared with equal firmness that they shall not rule over them. A brief history of the rise, progress, and policy of anti-slavery and the political organization into whose hands the administration of the Federal Government has been committed will fully justify the pronounced verdict of the people of Georgia. The party of Lincoln, called the Republican party, under its present name and organization, is of recent origin. It is admitted to be an anti-slavery party. While it attracts to itself by its creed the scattered advocates of exploded political heresies, of condemned theories in political economy, the advocates of commercial restrictions, of protection, of special privileges, of waste and corruption in the administration of Government, anti-slavery is its mission and its purpose. By anti-slavery it is made a power in the state. The question of slavery was the great difficulty in the way of the formation of the Constitution. While the subordination and the political and social inequality of the African race was fully conceded by all, it was plainly apparent that slavery would soon disappear from what are now the non-slave-holding States of the original thirteen. The opposition to slavery was then, as now, general in those States and the Constitution was made with direct reference to that fact.....etc., etc., etc.

Avalon Project - Confederate States of America - Georgia Secession