Does Atlanta Have the worst big city downtown in the South? (Dallas: community college, store)

[OuiOui]

Originally Posted by LovelySummer

Thanks. I'll check out Fairlie Poplar. Maybe they've got nice single family homes there. The only aspect of intown that unnerves me are those parts with significant homeless population on the streets bc I know that since the govt closed many mental hospitals during the Reagan era, many mentally ill persons end up homeless and ok n the street. I'm always afraid of being attacked (like a close relative was on Marta by a homeless mentally ill man who thought she was someone different from who she was). Maybe there are opps for great real estate deals in Fairlie Poplar. The pics look great.

Fairlie Poplar is literally in the middle of downtown.. there are no single family homes there. Don't you live in the city? Have you never been downtown? I've been trying to keep up with all the posts, but if you're the one who said you live in Buckhead, maybe you need to venture outside your comfort zone a bit more (that could've been someone else tho, idk, this thread has had a lot of traffic). It's a cool area. But if you're afraid of the homeless, maybe not.

I wouldn't worry about being attacked by a homeless person. I'm a very small female, and I've never once felt threated by a homeless person on the street. They'll most likely ask you for some money, or ask you if you're lost then try to give you directions in exchange for some spare change. Also, if I ever WERE to be attacked by a homeless person (totally hypothetical, because I really don't think that would happen), I'd feel pretty confident defending myself, even as an unusually small person. They're not exactly pillars of physical strength.

Try going to a show at the Rialto and walking around Fairlie Poplar. I used to love walking around to get a bite to eat before seeing shows at the Tabernacle.

[OuiOui]

Originally Posted by LovelySummer

Ha! Right. I just discovered that.

I am floored at Fairlie-Poplar, however.

Fellow Chicagoans:

Check out the condo buildings in Fairlie-Poplar. They look like Chicago buildings/condos. I love it. The units have amazing views also. If I was in my 20s again, with no kids, I would probably pick Fairlie-Poplar as it at least somewhat feels like living in the old beautiful buildings in Chicago (Lincoln Park, Hyde Park, Lake Shore Drive/Gold Coast).

Ok good, glad you figured that out lol.
And yess, I know! That's why I love that this area of the city. Reminds me of my childhood hangin out in Chicago
I'm in my 20s, WITH a child, and I'd still love to live in one of those buildings if my partner wasn't so anti-apartment/condo. But he grew up in Philly, so he unfortunately has a pretty negative/gloomy view of inner city life. He's seen some things..

[LovelySummer]

I go to downtown all the time - mostly the Centennial area as I have a young child and that is where we hang out. I have also been to the court and govt business area for my line of work. I have also been to the Five Points area. I have been to the area on Peachtree St going into Mechanicsville. As you can see, I have no problem venturing out. I am also from the inner city of Chicago so not exactly afraid of cities. However, no, I do not think I have ever been to this area that is called Fairlie-Poplar. I have never been to the Tabernacle or the Rialto but I have been to the Fox. I spend alot of time taking care of my child, tending to my husband and working a job. Sue me. It is somewhat asinine for you to ask me if I've been downtown.

Also, small frame or not. Put anybody against a mentally ill person and you might get more than you bargained for - especially if caught off guard. My aunt was ... on Marta.... Let a mentally ill person think you are someone he/she is pissed off at and come charging at you and then you can judge. Mentally ill people are sometimes not in touch with reality. I am not talking about regular homeless who have the state of mind to be mentally present. I am talking about those that you see walking and screaming to a pretend person at times. I would not rely on them to act completely logical and with great restraint.

Wait. Why am I even talking to you?

I won't make that mistake again.

Originally Posted by OuiOui

Fairlie Poplar is literally in the middle of downtown.. there are no single family homes there. Don't you live in the city? Have you never been downtown? I've been trying to keep up with all the posts, but if you're the one who said you live in Buckhead, maybe you need to venture outside your comfort zone a bit more (that could've been someone else tho, idk, this thread has had a lot of traffic). It's a cool area. But if you're afraid of the homeless, maybe not.

I wouldn't worry about being attacked by a homeless person. I'm a very small female, and I've never once felt threated by a homeless person on the street. They'll most likely ask you for some money, or ask you if you're lost then try to give you directions in exchange for some spare change. Also, if I ever WERE to be attacked by a homeless person (totally hypothetical, because I really don't think that would happen), I'd feel pretty confident defending myself, even as an unusually small person. They're not exactly pillars of physical strength.

Try going to a show at the Rialto and walking around Fairlie Poplar. I used to love walking around to get a bite to eat before seeing shows at the Tabernacle.

[OuiOui]

Yikes.. sorry, I was just asking a harmless question. I just thought it was strange to think there'd be single family homes somewhere hidden in the middle of downtown.

I come in peace, haha. Not one of those mean internet people.

[cwkimbro]

Originally Posted by LovelySummer

Ha! Right. I just discovered that.

I am floored at Fairlie-Poplar, however.

Fellow Chicagoans:

Check out the condo buildings in Fairlie-Poplar. They look like Chicago buildings/condos. I love it. The units have amazing views also. If I was in my 20s again, with no kids, I would probably pick Fairlie-Poplar as it at least somewhat feels like living in the old beautiful buildings in Chicago (Lincoln Park, Hyde Park, Lake Shore Drive/Gold Coast).

These are buildings from the era that Chicago boomed. There are buildings of this type all over the Eastern US. It is all about when it was built.

They often will even use the same architects or re-hash drawings of a building elsewhere.

Take the NYC Flatiron building. We have one too and it was built before the one in NYC, although the one in Toronto predates them all.

The Atlanta version is found on the edge of Fairlie-Poplar in the heart of downtown.

[JMatl]

Originally Posted by Atlanta_BD

Interestingly enough, I live in Arlington and was able to take the commuter train to my job in downtown Dallas couple of days ago.

But again we are talking about the city and not the suburbs.

Very interesting, as Arlington has no TRE station. They didn't want one, as they are extremely anti-transit there.

Stations - Trinity Railway Express (TRE)

[afonega1]

Originally Posted by Atlanta_BD

I never said Chicago wasnt more segregated. I'm simply pointing out that the boosters want to ignore or deny Atlanta's as if blacks and whites are living all kumbaya there.

You are not "simply" pointing out anything.
We just know Atlanta is not Mississippi Burning the way you portray it.
Atlanta is no worse or better than many cities when it comes to race but people like you are determined to act like you are some evolved human who has some special ability to revel in diversity and multiculturalism while somehow there is this magical line that somehow is drawn around the Fulton County line that somehow stops people from being open and progressive.
It's insulting and you have the audacity to call some one else out for saying exactly what you are..

ANT does not even like Atlanta as much as many of us and yet you still call him a booster because anybody that does not agree with your mis information and anecdotal evidence against all factual data.
Even Mutiny 77 who I have had run iis with is mostly rational and logical but yet you also call him a booster.
Why does anyone who likes the city have to automatically be a vooster? Implying that we somehow are void of forming reasonable opinions about the city we chose to live in?

You can go and do a search in all these forums and almost every city vs City where Atlanta is pitted against Dallas in things like urbanity, Atlanta wins by a fairly wide margin.

You are entitled to your opinion but it's so unusual that even in th he face of fact you refuse to acknowledge even the most basic if them.

[afonega1]

Originally Posted by atler8

Lovely
Ant is absolutely correct in what he wrote about the present Whole Foods area which, as he put it, "was...a gritty area" at one time.
Whole Foods and other stores in that plaza only came into existence in that spot once the gentrification process reached a critical turning point of no return.
I've lived here for 35 years & Ponce's history is very much the stuff that gritty urban tales are derived from.
There have even been pictorial books, etc. made about the street & it's wild former to presently somewhat gentrified and toned down history & state of affairs. I kid you not, the Ponce corridor, Poncey-Highlands, Inman park, etc. all had serious declines after 1950 or so.
And when I moved here, Morningside & Virginia Highland were in the process of settling down & reinvigorating as the last tides of panicked white flight out, consisting of many long time & elderly or empty nest residents in those areas, subsided.

If you watch some old episodes of COPS in the 80"S ON YouTube you can see how rundown and dangerous that area was.
There is a reason they call that Kroger "Murder Kroger".

[afonega1]

Originally Posted by Atlanta_BD

Interestingly enough, I live in Arlington and was able to take the commuter train to my job in downtown Dallas couple of days ago.

But again we are talking about the city and not the suburbs.

OMG
SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT:YOU said earlier" it spoke VOLUMES as to why the majority live out the city of Atlanta" yet you live in Arlington?
So hypocritical.You claim downtown Dallas is so better but you don't even live in the city of Dallas.WOW!! Lol

[afonega1]

[QUO,TE= LovelySummer;3802343 9]I think my comment abo ut the .area around Ponce City Market being decent was misunderstood. I was not referring to what it was more than 5 years ago bc I was not living in Atlanta and would not know. What I was saying was that at the time PCM was decided for location there, that area was not gritty. Hence the Whole Foods across the street in the recent years. I was saying that same developmt could have gone into the true downtown. I think it would have been a hit. It could have even been at the Underground, similar to the layout of Pike's Market in Seattle.

What are the three museums that have come to downtown in the last 5-10 years? [/quote]

Underground Atlanta has been redeveloped a couple of times. The last time was in the nineties and it was very vibrant. There were stores like GAP ,Victoria's Secret and many other national chains. Unfortunately I believe it was before the time that cities were becoming popular again and there was not enough residential population to support the revenue needed to support those stores