10-10-2013, 09:08 AM
Location: Canton
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What term does your family use in place of y'all?
I'm guessing "yous guys"
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I grew up in a bilingual house in Alabama and I found that even though I was born and raised there, I didn't pick up the Southern drawl (mostly - I can put it on if I feel like it). Your kids will most likely end up speaking with the accent that is prevalent in your home...I did...when I'm excited or emotional I tend to pronounce things the way my mother does, with a Korean accent and when I'm just speaking I tend to have a neutral accent like my father does. Y'all have a good day now!
10-10-2013, 09:15 AM
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reminds me of the movie Rush Hour when Chris Tucker was teaching Jackie Chan how to say "Yall" he kept saying "Yoo All" funny
10-10-2013, 10:05 AM
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I'm am African-American and when I first moved here I couldn't understand a word anyone said to me either. It was like another language, and the locals would tell me I spoke too fast. You are not alone in this. It took me a while to adapt.
I agree with this. It took me about 2 years to understand the local dialect. It is very unique and since I am a nerd for linguistics I find it particularly fascinating and I am actually quite good in what I call my "Atlanta-speak." My mom used to get a kick out of me talking like I am from Atlanta and to this day when I visit my family they ask me to speak like I'm from Atlanta and we play a game of "decipher the phrase." Some of them are getting pretty good at it.
I went to CAU back when University Homes was still there and I volunteered at a youth program at University Homes so I frequently interacted with children and parents there. I also volunteered at John O. Chiles senior building and so I was around mostly black native Atlantans and they used to crack me up saying "you talk
good!! Where you from...
New Yoke?" I am from Ohio. My roommate who volunteered with me was from NYC and she would tell them I sounded nothing like a New Yorker and would get into debates with them about it since she rarely heard that but me, someone who sounds nothing like a New Yorker did and I think it really bothered her lol.
FWIW, I had a friend from London at CAU who loved being around so many black people since she said she never knew there were so many black people in the US until she moved here for school. Initially she went to a school in Miami, FL. She said their way of speaking in Miami was way worse than Atlanta and that in Atlanta they just don't enunciate all the syllables in the words but in Miami they spoke an alien language lol! I have sense met people from Miami and their way of speaking is much more difficult to comprehend and I agree with my friend, that here in Atlanta, people just usually don't enunciate all the syllables of their words. The only contradiction I can think of for this is the use of an "sk" sound instead of "st" sound. My son decided to call a "street" a "skreet" for a week or so, due to a TA in his preschool class and I nearly had a conniption and had to complain to the school and insist he call a street a street and not a skreet.
Funny, but my daughter is around the same age now that my son was then and she was shocked when one of her little friends called a strawberry a "skrawberry." She was like: Mommy, guess what? My friend ___ called a strawberry a "skrawberry" and I told her it is NOT a skrawberry it is a "st...raw...berry." LOL so I don't have to worry about her because she is a little grammar/speaking police. Her teachers say she usually teaches children the correct way to say words and so she is frequently partnered with children who either don't have good language skills or are ESOL students in pre-k. She goes to a school near downtown so it is very diverse and has children from homeless shelters and from foreign countries in her class.
10-10-2013, 10:08 AM
Location: Eastwatch by the sea
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What term does your family use in place of y'all?
Twice in my life, a female has objected to being called "you guys". The first time was a long time ago. If I recall correctly, I was in gym class and called a group of young ladies, you guys. From one, I was reminded that she wasn't a guy.
Recently, my six year old daughter, laughingly informed me, "I'm not a guy, I'm a girl."
In my house, I make an effort to say you all.
Yes, I was a huge fan of the Electric Company. In before I'm asked.
10-10-2013, 10:14 AM
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"y'all" is linguistically superior. Basically ever other major language has a plural version of the work "you" except for English, where it can be either singular or plural. "y'all" is that fix.BTW, if you cannot understand people in the city don't try to go to exurb/rural Georgia. Atlantans generally have a pretty international / neutral accent .
I actually love southern accents in general and patterns of speech. I don't know if the rural Georgians are all that worse than Atlantans. I think the OP is speaking of the black Atlantans and the way they speak specifically. It is a really muffled sort of speaking.
Rural Georgians usually just have a sort of drawl and I think it is easier for people to understand because it is a traditional "southern" accent.
I worked for SunTrust doing phone customer service for a while and had no issues understanding anyone from GA, AL, NC, AR, or TN (who have my FAVORITE southern accent because they have a singing sort of accent and it reminds me of Dolly Pardon and other country singers who I love).
The only issues that most of my co-workers had was people from extremely rural SC. They reminded me of Boomhauer from King of the Hill, that Fox cartoon. Luckily I could always understand Boomhauer so I didn't have any issues with the SC customers but once the quality department, who scores calls heard me on one with a guy who told me, really fast like Boomhauer that he had "just moved from Georgy back on up to South Caroliny" and they didn't know how in the H I understood anything he said so I got a 100% on that call just because I actually had a short conversation with him lol.
10-10-2013, 10:48 AM
Location: sumter
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LOL, forgive me but your post is a little funny. if you think Atlanta is bad then don't go to Charleston, sc. They have that strong Gullah/Geechees dialect going on down there. Kids can also pick up the dialect from the local area especially if they hear it at school and from their local peer groups all day. I have seen this before where the parents have the accent from where they grew up and the kids picked up the local accent because they were born and grew up in it. I never ran across that in Atlanta because everybody I meet there is always from somewhere else . A southern accent is not the worst thing your kids can have lol.
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The post was funny, yet a bit embarrassing that Atlanta or alot of the south has a reputation of black folks that cant speak proper English. When I moved here in the late 80's, I was told "you be speak propa" by someone or even in middle school called mr proper sometimes. I dont sound white either, so just pronouncing your words will get you ridiculed in the south.How the hell can people take pride in talking like this.
10-10-2013, 11:47 AM
Location: Canton
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The post was funny, yet a bit embarrassing that Atlanta or alot of the south has a reputation of black folks that cant speak proper English. When I moved here in the late 80's, I was told "you be speak propa" by someone or even in middle school called mr proper sometimes. I dont sound white either, so just pronouncing your words will get you ridiculed in the south.How the hell can people take pride in talking like this.
I need to correct you here. There is no "s" in the pronunciation of Christmas...it is simply "Crim-ma". and you've forgotten shrimp = skrimp, street = skreet, business = bid-neh...
10-10-2013, 11:50 AM
Location: Savannah GA
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What term does your family use in place of y'all?
I was wondering the same thing ...
10-10-2013, 11:52 AM
Location: Sweet Home...CHICAGO
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The post was funny, yet a bit embarrassing that Atlanta or alot of the south has a reputation of black folks that cant speak proper English. When I moved here in the late 80's, I was told "you be speak propa" by someone or even in middle school called mr proper sometimes. I dont sound white either, so just pronouncing your words will get you ridiculed in the south.How the hell can people take pride in talking like this.
The thing about it, this dialect was born out of slavery/institutionalized racism that outlawed African slaves from learning how to read or write. You can't control or have real power over someone who is literate or educated.
When you are taken from your country as livestock to work for others for free while also being forced to learn their language while at the same time being forbidden to learn to read and write it, this is what you get. We can't forget that this is where this dialect or so-called "Ebonics" came from in the South and spread throughout black America as descendants of Southern slaves left the South for "green pastures," more opportunities and better treatment.
The issue comes in where centuries later a group of people who now have access to public education and are taught to read in school but still choose to speak as if they are still forbidden to learn how to read and write.
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People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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