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Old 12-22-2013, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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But as other posters have hinted at already, Houston doesn't need to worry about comparing itself to Atlanta. We simply have bigger fish to fry.

Houston is (somewhat slowly) headed towards a Los Angeles/Chicago-hybrid model. Growth and development are getting smarter by the minute. And regardless of what people believe is going on in the city, it is densifying.
Houston has no zoning laws. It'll be tough to encourage dense developments without zoning laws.

 
Old 12-22-2013, 12:53 PM
 
Location: East Point
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Houston has no zoning laws. It'll be tough to encourage dense developments without zoning laws.
they don't have zoning laws?

for real?
 
Old 12-22-2013, 01:41 PM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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Houston has no zoning laws. It'll be tough to encourage dense developments without zoning laws.
You've obviously never been to the inner loop of Houston.
 
Old 12-22-2013, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Baghdad by the Bay (San Francisco, California)
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Originally Posted by Nairobi View Post
But as other posters have hinted at already, Houston doesn't need to worry about comparing itself to Atlanta. We simply have bigger fish to fry.

Houston is (somewhat slowly) headed towards a Los Angeles/Chicago-hybrid model. Growth and development are getting smarter by the minute. And regardless of what people believe is going on in the city, it is densifying.
Yeah, "somewhat".
 
Old 12-22-2013, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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You've obviously never been to the inner loop of Houston.
Never been to Houston, but I've done my research.
How Houston gets along without zoning - BusinessWeek
 
Old 12-22-2013, 06:21 PM
 
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Texas zoomed past Atlanta because Texas is much bigger and diverse(not racially) than most other states. Big oil, high tech, healthcare, food services, air service, trading, etc..

Atlanta is a large regional metro with some of the above. Texas is just bigger and deeper in breadth of offerings. And unlike some states which are also big and deep, Texas is cheap.
 
Old 12-22-2013, 06:30 PM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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Never been to Houston
Thank you for being honest.
 
Old 12-22-2013, 06:54 PM
 
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Houston has no zoning laws. It'll be tough to encourage dense developments without zoning laws.
Houston is plenty dense, probably denser than Atlanta.

However, they rely on demand and similar market forces.
 
Old 12-22-2013, 07:25 PM
 
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Houston is denser city wide than Atlanta. Even the inner loop of Houston has a higher pop. density than the same area of Atlanta(95 or so sq miles). The problem lies in the fact that this is dense suburban development. As I've said multiple times, Houston is a consistent development city while Atlanta is nodal.

The problem is, Houston has no impressive urban neighborhoods. None. Their midtown is still a joke IMO. I just don't see Houston having walkable neighborhoods like Sweet Auburn, Castlebury Hill, Westside, O4W, and of course, Midtown itself. Atlanta's core just feels more walkable and consistent.


Look at the aerials of both cities:







Atlanta looks bigger/denser in it's core despite being a city of 400k and a smaller metro.
 
Old 12-22-2013, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Houston is denser city wide than Atlanta. Even the inner loop of Houston has a higher pop. density than the same area of Atlanta(95 or so sq miles). The problem lies in the fact that this is dense suburban development. As I've said multiple times, Houston is a consistent development city while Atlanta is nodal.

The problem is, Houston has no impressive urban neighborhoods. None. Their midtown is still a joke IMO. I just don't see Houston having walkable neighborhoods like Sweet Auburn, Castlebury Hill, Westside, O4W, and of course, Midtown itself. Atlanta's core just feels more walkable and consistent.


Look at the aerials of both cities:






Atlanta looks bigger/denser in it's core despite being a city of 400k and a smaller metro.
Houston's city limits are huge, so comparing population isn't a good comparison. Also, Houston is very flat compared to atlanta's topography.
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