Is Peachtree in Atlata similar to Preston Road in Dallas? (Atlanta: hotel, house)

[Dallas retail updater]

Originally Posted by LovinDecatur

I agree that there really is no comparison to Peachtree in Dallas. It stretches from the core of the city far out into the northeastern suburbs; 26 miles in all (although it does encounter some slight name changes along the way ie Peachtree Industrial Blvd and Peachtree Pkwy). Along the way you encounter retail, commercial, residential and industrial development along with neighborhoods that run the socioeconomic gamut.
I also agree that Roswell Road might be a better comparison, as its' southern end is anchored in one of the metro's most affluent neighborhoods (just as Preston Road originates in Highland Park) and snakes its' way through some of Atlanta's most affluent areas (Buckhead, Sandy Springs, Roswell).
A more valid comparison to Peachtree IMO would be Westheimer in Houston.

Preston Road stretches for thirty miles to highway 380 where it is now being expanded even further north. Westheimer ends at the city of Katy. Westheimer is Houston's retail corridor though.

As there are mansions in Highland Park, there are enormous estates in Preston Hollow. Ironically, it is Preston Center that sits at the center of this area of estates and not Highland Park Village. Look just to the northeast edge of Love Field airport and one will find estates in that area as well.

Houston has more money than Dallas, but more money visits Dallas on any given day. It is a good relationship that has worked well. Shoot, the traffic between Dallas and Houston is what created Southwest Airlines.

[cwkimbro]

Originally Posted by Dallas retail updater

Perhaps McKinney Avenue is a better comparison to Peachtree then? McKinney has become the new Main Street and meanders for three miles north of downtown Dallas.

We're going to keep running into the same thing. There is just nothing quite like Peachtree St in Dallas.

McKinney is the main drag going through Uptown, but not the 'core' Downtown neighborhood. It is a short street and pretty much stops there. It is very important to Uptown, though.

Peacthree goes across out region, through downtown, through Midtown, through Buckhead, and into our northeastern suburbs.

It's one of those things, I understand the parallels in a limited context, but so much is missing that Peachtree be such a name-sake for our whole city/region.

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by Dallas retail updater

Preston Road stretches for thirty miles to highway 380 where it is now being expanded even further north. Westheimer ends at the city of Katy. Westheimer is Houston's retail corridor though.

As there are mansions in Highland Park, there are enormous estates in Preston Hollow. Ironically, it is Preston Center that sits at the center of this area of estates and not Highland Park Village. Look just to the northeast edge of Love Field airport and one will find estates in that area as well.

Houston has more money than Dallas, but more money visits Dallas on any given day. It is a good relationship that has worked well. Shoot, the traffic between Dallas and Houston is what created Southwest Airlines.

Yes, I agree with all that you said here, but as you quoted me I'm not sure if it's meant as a retort or not. I don't see anything here that contradicted what I said.

[Newsboy]

I know nothing about Preston Road in Dallas, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't have subway lines running the length of it like Peachtree in Atlanta.

[Dallas retail updater]

Originally Posted by Newsboy

I know nothing about Preston Road in Dallas, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't have subway lines running the length of it like Peachtree in Atlanta.

A painful lesson learned in Dallas is that one should never run mass transit connecting it to luxury retail. That was the main factor leading to the demise of Prestonwood Town Center in North Dallas.

Preston Center
Plaza at Preston Center
Preston Royal

Sound familiar? There must be thirty shopping centers along the length of Preston Road with the name Preston in it.

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by Dallas retail updater

A painful lesson learned in Dallas is that one should never run mass transit connecting it to luxury retail. That was the main factor leading to the demise of Prestonwood Town Center in North Dallas.

Preston Center
Plaza at Preston Center
Preston Royal

Sound familiar? There must be thirty shopping centers along the length of Preston Road with the name Preston in it.

Atlanta's most luxurious retail is all connected to mass transit.



Atlanta is such a dynamic, cosmopolitan, sophisticated city.

[Newsboy]

Originally Posted by Dallas retail updater

A painful lesson learned in Dallas is that one should never run mass transit connecting it to luxury retail. That was the main factor leading to the demise of Prestonwood Town Center in North Dallas.

Preston Center
Plaza at Preston Center
Preston Royal

Sound familiar? There must be thirty shopping centers along the length of Preston Road with the name Preston in it.

Originally Posted by aries4118

Atlanta's most luxurious retail is all connected to mass transit.



Atlanta is such a dynamic, cosmopolitan, sophisticated city.

Yes, our Dallas friend totally missed my point, apparently. Atlanta benefits ENORMOUSLY from the fact that it has HIGH SPEED MASS TRANIST (subway lines) connecting all its most important neighborhoods and venues, from the airport on the south to Perimeter Center on the north, from the Georgia Dome / Philips Arena / World Congress Center / CNN on the west to bustling downtown Decatur on the east. And MARTA is about to get even bigger and go many more places thanks to a $2.5 BILLION expansion.

Few (if any) of the top attractions / venues in Dallas are even in Dallas COUNTY! I don't know why we're even having this conversation. There's no comparison IMO.

[Dallas retail updater]

Originally Posted by aries4118

Atlanta's most luxurious retail is all connected to mass transit.



Atlanta is such a dynamic, cosmopolitan, sophisticated city.

I think a major difference between Dallas and Atlanta is that the best retail in Dallas held ground during the late eighties by out competed the invading outside luxury. Bloomingdales, Sakowitz, Marshall Fields, Lord & Taylor, and Saks Fifth Avenue attempted to enter into the Dallas market and all had their hats handed to them.

The market centers in both Dallas and Atlanta compare. I think Dallas has a more substantial surrounding market while Atlanta gets more international visitors.

Look up Forty-Five-Ten downtown, It has become the new Neiman Marcus of Dallas. Then there is Stanley Korshak in Uptown. The whole of central Dallas has been redeveloping into a big time retail center.

[Dallas retail updater]

Originally Posted by Newsboy

Yes, our Dallas friend totally missed my point, apparently. Atlanta benefits ENORMOUSLY from the fact that it has HIGH SPEED MASS TRANIST (subway lines) connecting all its most important neighborhoods and venues, from the airport on the south to Perimeter Center on the north, from the Georgia Dome / Philips Arena / World Congress Center / CNN on the west to bustling downtown Decatur on the east. And MARTA is about to get even bigger and go many more places thanks to a $2.5 BILLION expansion.

Few (if any) of the top attractions / venues in Dallas are even in Dallas COUNTY! I don't know why we're even having this conversation. There's no comparison IMO.

It isn't my intentions to argue with you. I was attempting to compare both Preston Road and Peachtree, but they seem to contrast. It appears that Peachtree serves as both the major office and retail corridor of Atlanta. In contrast, while Preston Road is referred to as the Golden retail corridor of Dallas, the Dallas Parkway is referred to as its Platinum office corridor.

Central Dallas has really had a break out recently. Prosperity in the area is no longer being measured in square grids of downtown and the height of the office buildings constructed on them, but in the quality of retail and the many major Main Streets exhibiting it.

[Dallas retail updater]

Originally Posted by Born 2 Roll

When it comes to high-end and higher-end retail options, I guess that one could say that Peachtree in Atlanta might have some similarities to what you might say that Preston Road is to Dallas.

Only Peachtree seems to be a more high-profile address in Atlanta than Preston Road seems to be in Dallas.

The commercial development patterns seem to be more intense along Peachtree, particularly through the Intown areas of Downtown, Midtown and Buckhead (Atlanta's Uptown district).

The retail development patterns are particularly intense along Peachtree through Buckhead and even into neighboring Brookhaven.

Peachtree itself is a fairly urban street that basically only runs through urban districts in the heart of the city while Preston Road seems to be a much longer street that runs from inner-suburban North Dallas out into exurban North Dallas and beyond.

Peachtree is to Atlanta what Wilshire Boulevard is to Los Angeles. As other posters have described it, Atlanta is basically a linear city that has grown up around and along Peachtree which runs through the areas of Downtown, Midtown, Buckhead, Brookhaven and Chamblee (...Peachtree runs through the Chamblee area as "Peachtree Boulevard" (formerly "Peachtree Industrial Boulevard")).

Preston Road may be a high-profile address for retail in Dallas, but a better comparison for Dallas' Preston Road in Atlanta might be Georgia State Route 9 (GA 9) because of that road's geographical similarities to Dallas' Preston Road as a surface street/road that runs through Atlanta's Northside inner-suburban, suburban, outer-suburban and exurban areas in a way that is very similar to how Preston Road runs through Dallas' Northside inner-suburban, suburban and exurban areas.

Georgia State Route 9 (Roswell Road through North Atlanta and Sandy Springs) offshoots from Peachtree in Buckhead and runs roughly due north out of the city through the mostly affluent areas of North Atlanta, Sandy Springs, Roswell, Alpharetta and Milton.

Better yet, an even better comparison for Dallas' Preston Road's status as a "golden retail corridor" might be Georgia State Route 400. Even though it is a freeway that compares favorably to the Dallas North Tollway through the Northside of Dallas, much of the entirety of the Georgia 400 corridor has attracted much high-end and higher-end retail development through the Buckhead, Perimeter, Alpharetta/Milton, Cumming and Dawsonville areas.

Thank you for this info. As I have the city imagined, Peachtree in Atlanta runs along the basins at the bottom of the hills in the area, but significantly at an elevation above the creeks which are at the very lowest level. The restriction of this area squeezed between the residences built higher upon the hills has worked to push up the height of the office buildings. While Peachtree is both the major office and retail corridor of Atlanta, Preston Road is the major retail corridor and Dallas Parkway is the major office corridor of Dallas.

The algorithm for building height in Dallas is about 23 to 26 stories downtown and less in the suburbs. This is so because of an abundance of real estate.