Gubernatorial Race 2018 (Millen: high school, stats, residential)

[atltechdude]

Originally Posted by CaliDreaming01

So he didn't really make a lot of traction with white voters there even with his moderate stance.

Wrong, he got 30% of the white vote, which is clearly a lot more than most Ds get in AL. That, together with the increasing African American turnout gave him the win.

[DreamerD]

Originally Posted by Forhall

Top story on CNN right now. Hope we don't screw it up.

Also hope Kemp gets nowhere near the Governor mansion.

Isn't Kemp the guy that didn't tell voters their personal information was compromised due to a lack of security? If so, definitely hope he doesn't win.

[ronricks]

If the voter turnout in these open primaries means anything, Republicans are vastly outvoting Democrats in Georgia. Not a good look.

[DreamerD]

Originally Posted by atltechdude

Didn't vote for Abrams and I'm not thrilled she won. Even though I am closer to her positions in my own views and will vote for her in Nov, she is too progressive to win the general election, so once again whoever wins the R primary will be the next governor.

Alabama showed how to do it right. If you want to win a southern state as a D you have to be a moderate.

But atltechdude, shouldn't people be voting for who they want to see as their leader and not who they think can win? I know a lot of millennials got a lot of heat because we chose to vote for what we believe in versus maintaining the status quo but if people start voting more and more for what they believe in, then one day their candidate will actually have a chance. It's important that we make our voices heard. There was this one candidate I voted for...he was so liberal and I said to myself, very slim chance we will win but I'm going to give him my support because I want him and others in the state to know that we exist.

[DreamerD]

Originally Posted by seussie

I thought the question about redistricting was good but I wonder why they even needed it. I mean, do they use this as evidence to an argument or something? I feel like so many other states've talked about gerrymandering to the point that I would assume, for them as the minority party, that it was never a question if it -should- change but -when-?

Good point. I want to say that people often don't like to change things when it benefits them. They like to pretend as if there isn't an issue. If most people in the state of Georgia are benefiting from the way things currently are, they may not want changes to be made and so the question has to be asked. Gerrymandering obviously should not be allowed but the people have to make it as issue.

[-thomass]

Originally Posted by atltechdude

No you can't say that. Primary turnout does not predict results in the general.

Dem turnout has been historically lower in GA during the last few primaries. Like very low. Yesterday was pretty shocking to me. Dems seem to close the gap in the general. I’d expect the same here.

Abrams and Evans got 48% of the total vote. That’s unprecedented for progressive candidates in ga and that was only the primary.

[DreamerD]

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The big story of Alabama was a record turnout among black voters, esp black women. Even as bad Roy Moore was, Doug Jones still had to fight hard for that razor-thin victory. He made a huge push for black voters and if he hadn't, he wouldn't have won. Enough Republican voters were disgusted enough to stay at home, which allowed him to take the win. So he didn't really make a lot of traction with white voters there even with his moderate stance.



I remember this. I found it pretty nauseating that even though he did not win, so many people went out to support that disgusting low life.

[DreamerD]

Originally Posted by ATL2018

It time to make great changes in Georgia. We need progressives in office. Remember when Roy Barnes proposed the Outer Loop? People were in an uproar and got rid of him. Now years later, looking back on it, it was a great idea. Now it seems too late to do anything about it. We need the state to invest more in transit. What better way to do this when you have a progressive in office. Stacey Abrams wants to reform prisons and expand Medicare. She wants to expand the hope scholarship program as well.

It baffles me that Republicans are going after Stacey Abrams' debt ($200,000) when Governor Deal was millions of dollars in debt when he took office (https://www.ajc.com/news/local-govt-...Omtzt3mNDUhyJ/). Also, who isn't in debt these days? The way the Republicans are going after her, you would think they have no debts at all.

I hope Abrams can harp on the debt issues to let the people know that she is not some rich person who doesn't understand having to repay loans or debt back. Hell, I have a lot of debt too so why should we not vote for someone just because they have debt. It's not like she isn't repaying her loans. She could use this to her advantage to show regular voters (Republican, Democratic and Independents) that she is just like them. She is not some rich person who doesn't understand the struggles of day to day life regarding debt and so on. She can make this work for her but she needs to excite voters from all parties.

Your post is a breath of fresh air. If someone is progressive, please support progressives and don't worry about will this progressive win. I have a strong feeling a lot of people are thinking the way people on this thread are regarding why they shouldn't vote for a progressive candidate and it ends up hurting progressives because their numbers are out there but no one knows it because they're voting for moderates.



Regarding debt, I'm pretty sure republicans and democrats alike have children who are in crazy debt. That student loan crisis is so real. As long as debt is justified, it shouldn't be a problem.

[Forhall]

For all of you saying Abrams can't win or the Republican will be our next governor, let me say something very important.

Last night, 48(!!) percent of voters chose a democratic ballot. That is HUGE. In the last competitive governor Primary the ballots we're split 63-36 for Republicans and they ended up winning by 10. In the last presidential primary, 2016, ballots were split 60-39 for Republicans and Trump won by 5. On average, Democrats do about 9% better since 2010 than the primary split. This shows massive democratic enthusiasm.

Further, huge metro counties Gwinnet and Cobb pulled more democratic ballots than republican. Those are counties that Deal won by over 10% each. There has been huge changes since our last governor election and Abrams can definitely win.

[DreamerD]

Originally Posted by ronricks

If the voter turnout in these open primaries means anything, Republicans are vastly outvoting Democrats in Georgia. Not a good look.

You're probably right. So many people at work who'd vote democrat didn't come out to vote. They didn't even care most of them. Really sad. There are people in the world who wish they could vote and then you have these people who take it for granted and then ***** and complain when policies affect their life negatively.