Atlanta's future sidekick... (Alpharetta, Griffin, Kennesaw: appointed, cost of, move to)

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by Saintmarks

That is what I posted earlier as my understanding. The laws inhibited new cities from incorporating but there was nothing about an already established city annexing land. It is lilmusket that thinks these laws kept cities from annexing land.

The reason the existing suburbs don't have larger footprints is that most in the metro area like their county government and don't want to be annexed. The major annexations in Cobb have primarily been pre development, the developer asks to be annexed so he can get a higher density zoning than the county will allow. When the area is already developed, it has to be approved in a vote by citizens living in the area and most people want the status quo.

The exception to this on a larger scale was Roswell and Alpharetta. Look at maps of these two from back in the eighties and you will see that they took in large swaths of land and were much larger in land area than any other suburb. This was the precursor to the current total incorporation of all of North Fulton as residents in these areas wanted to be in these cities because of frustrations with Fulton County.

If one of the Cobb cities to this day try to annex any kind of large swath, the county always fights it. That is why the metro Atlanta map is not colored in like a map of DFW or any number of metro areas in your Rand McNally road atlas. Counties in metro Atlanta are practically large suburban cities anyway.

Yep...you're preachin' to the choir/converted here, St. Marks... (you know my knowledge on here in relation to this subject, man...!)


And I knew you understood about the 3-mile incorporation rule...I just quoted your post to emphasize the point to lilmusket...(I should have posted better...)

[Saintmarks]

Originally Posted by aries4118

Yep...you're preachin' to the choir/converted here, St. Marks... (you know my knowledge on here in relation to this subject, man...!)


And I knew you understood about the 3-mile incorporation rule...I just quoted your post to emphasize the point to lilmusket...(I should have posted better...)

No prob! I know we think a lot alike. Just wanted the record to show.... as if that made any difference anyway.

You and I just want the Atlanta metro map in the Rand McNally to look more colorful, that's our issue.

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by Saintmarks

No prob! I know we think a lot alike. Just wanted the record to show.... as if that made any difference anyway.

You and I just want the Atlanta metro map in the Rand McNally to look more colorful, that's our issue.

Yep, we do...and (I believe) it would help foster community/sense of place in the metro, prevent rampant, tree-cover-destroying development, as well as prevent areas from changing (for the worse) so quickly.

Sigh...

[kayrob]

Originally Posted by Spade

Newark is New York's sidekick?

No it's not. I was born in Newark and I'm pretty sure that it's not even in the same state as NYC.

[southgeorgia]

Originally Posted by Saintmarks

No prob! I know we think a lot alike. Just wanted the record to show.... as if that made any difference anyway.

You and I just want the Atlanta metro map in the Rand McNally to look more colorful, that's our issue.

you're certainly not alone.

many atlantans on this board share your complex.

[Saintmarks]

Originally Posted by southgeorgia

you're certainly not alone.

many atlantans on this board share your complex.

Do you agree with me that the Atlanta is totally underserved in Rand McNally? Barely a quarter page for the metro area, doesn't show any of North Fulton north of the river, only a sliver of Gwinnett and only a small portion of Cobb.

Several comparable metro areas like DFW, Houston, Detroit, the Twin Cities all have full pages, several smaller metro areas (Kansas City, St. Louis, Phoenix, Pittsburgh) have half pages. The Norfolk/Hampton Roads area of Virginia has better coverage.

Just a beef of mine. Let's start a petition!

[southgeorgia]

Originally Posted by Saintmarks

Do you agree with me that the Atlanta is totally underserved in Rand McNally? Barely a quarter page for the metro area, doesn't show any of North Fulton north of the river, only a sliver of Gwinnett and only a small portion of Cobb.

Several comparable metro areas like DFW, Houston, Detroit, the Twin Cities all have full pages, several smaller metro areas (Kansas City, St. Louis, Phoenix, Pittsburgh) have half pages. The Norfolk/Hampton Roads area of Virginia has better coverage.

Just a beef of mine. Let's start a petition!

no not really. to be honest i don't care if atlanta is on the map or not.

i don't know what the sales projections are for the printed atlas these days, but i've been using google maps since they came out.

[Saintmarks]

Originally Posted by southgeorgia

no not really. to be honest i don't care if atlanta is on the map or not.

i don't know what the sales projections are for the printed atlas these days, but i've been using google maps since they came out.

Guess I asked the wrong person. South Georgia envy of Atlanta is rampant on these posts.

I meant South Georgia as a region, not you personally

Rand McNallys are really cheap at WalMart. As I can't carry my computer in my car, I still love a printed map.

[southgeorgia]

Originally Posted by Saintmarks

Guess I asked the wrong person. South Georgia envy of Atlanta is rampant on these posts.

I meant South Georgia as a region, not you personally

Rand McNallys are really cheap at WalMart. As I can't carry my computer in my car, I still love a printed map.

Its not envy. We just don't feel the need to be reassured of ourselves as much as atlantans. We do our own thing and don't worry about what the rest of the country thinks about us when they see our little page in the atlas.

[Saintmarks]

Originally Posted by southgeorgia

Its not envy. We just don't feel the need to be reassured of ourselves as much as atlantans. We do our own thing and don't worry about what the rest of the country thinks about us when they see our little page in the atlas.

Well, I have been a map geek since I was five when we got a Britannica set with a world atlas about as big as I was, so I am probably guilty as charged. But it is also a practical need to get around in an area. Here in DFW, the whole page shows my suburb of McKinney which is as far north of Dallas as Cumming is to Atlanta. Someone traveling to Atlanta would have many reasons to get to Alpharetta or Gwinnett or Kennesaw. None of these areas are on the Atlanta map.