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Old 10-21-2012, 09:47 PM
 
Location: NYC
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When I first started to wax my car, that was my experience as well. The paste wax only last 2-4 weeks and New England weather isn't kind, so I need to keep applying. OTOH, 2/3 coats of Zaino can last me 3-6 months and water still beads. I did go overboard once applying 8 coats in a month but it really doesn't do much after 3 coats IMO.
my experience with gold class paste so far is that it hasn't worn out yet ie stop beading.

I just stick to the twice a year for no good reason. It stop getting smooth to the touch around the 6 month mark.
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:47 AM
 
Location: New Market, MD
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Thanks everyone. It looks so much nicer now though I am still confused about one thing. Before I ask - I did clay (after washing the car again) used both bars as it was getting really dirty and spent a lot of time in doing that. Then gold class wax. What is surprising is that fenders and mirror covers (metal) seem to have more gloss than the rest of the car! Any idea?
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:53 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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did you claybar the car at all before you applied?

With zaino, you are supposed to strip all the impurities from the surface before you put it on. It is not a traditional cleaner wax like the stuff off the counter at auto parts stores, it is a synthetic sealer.

It takes a bit more intitial prep but longterm pretty easy to use.
No need. Its a show car with no fallout on the perfectly smooth paint. I strip the existing wax with the soap that was required..
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:46 AM
 
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No need. Its a show car with no fallout on the perfectly smooth paint. I strip the existing wax with the soap that was required..
So you ignored that step over the instructions of the pros, and weren't happy with the results. Maybe you made some other modifications of the process as well. Hmmm...

I've come to the conclusion that when many thousands of people from all walks of life and levels of interest say "this product is great", and one person says "this product is a terrible scam and anyone who likes it is an idiot", that person is THE problem. That seems to hold true whether the product is auto sealant, speakers, floor polishers, bird feeders, or pretty much everything else.

Just an observation.

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Old 10-22-2012, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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No need. Its a show car with no fallout on the perfectly smooth paint. I strip the existing wax with the soap that was required..
Two things.

1st any car can benefit from a claybar and it is a step.

2nd if you assume your car did not need a claybar, then I will assume you never drive it and its a "garage queen" the best selling point of zaino imo is its durability. Show your car on Saturday, drive to work on Monday, race it Wednesday night, car meet on Friday. Looks good the whole time.

Is give the other high end stuff a try like poorboys. Some detailers think it gives a slightly deeper shine then zaino, but most agree not as durable, but still good.



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Old 10-22-2012, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Meguiar's NXT is well known by detailers to contain a lot of scratch fillers. Just Google "Meguiar's NXT fillers". That's the reason why many inexperienced/uninformed users like to use it - it causes the swirls in their paint to be filled in, and temporarily disappear. Most detailing enthusiasts would choose to correct their paint instead of cover up its flaws.

I've tried upwards of 30 different waxes and sealants in the last five years, and there are probably almost a dozen that could be called the "best", depending on your criteria. The fewer products a person has direct experience with, the less I trust their opinion.

Zaino is probably the best overall combination of longevity, appearance, and ease of application. I can think of products that easily exceed it in any one of those areas - for instance, carnauba wax is still the standard for appearance on dark colors, but doesn't last 1/6th as long as most sealants. And and the two-part coatings, like Cquartz last even longer than Zaino, but they are more difficult to apply.

And BTW, anyone who thinks Zaino's "process" is somehow new or unique - you're uninformed. Claying to remove embedded contaminants, then compounding (if needed) and final polishing has been the way to prepare paint for at least a couple decades, as long as I've been old enough to drive and detail my own cars. I stopped using Meguiar's and other store bought products in the late '90s, though I'd use them in a pinch if didn't have anything better on hand.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:23 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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So you ignored that step over the instructions of the pros, and weren't happy with the results. Maybe you made some other modifications of the process as well. Hmmm...

I've come to the conclusion that when many thousands of people from all walks of life and levels of interest say "this product is great", and one person says "this product is a terrible scam and anyone who likes it is an idiot", that person is THE problem. That seems to hold true whether the product is auto sealant, speakers, floor polishers, bird feeders, or pretty much everything else.

Just an observation.

Um its a show car that never leaves the garage.. No need for claybar. Oh and I betcha I have more experience then anyone here as far as show car finishes. Been building showcars since the mid 70's.. I found an older wax comparo on the autogeek site. Read it folks.. There is nothing wrong with fillers to hide swirl makes too.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...howdown-3.html

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Old 10-22-2012, 01:22 PM
 
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I use nothing but Blue Ice spray on/wipe off wax. Takes me about 15 mins to wax my car and it looks as good as anyone's.
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