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If you're in a WRC car and put in a time of say 25:00:00 for the whole course, and I put in a time of 24:35:17, that means that I beat you. That's how he beat 2 of the WRC cars because they had overall slower times than he did.
Alright, now that I have some more info, let's see what this means. Jalopnik has the following:
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There has been some confusion regarding Caswell's finish and the class that he and Slocum competed in.
The class he raced in is called Rally America, but it has no affiliation with the stateside sanctioning body of the same name...... Caswell and Slocum achieved a total time of 5:29:38.4 after penalties, enough for a third-place finish in their class and a hypothetical 23rd if the two men had been competing in WRC.
Twenty-five drivers competed in the WRC class at Rally Mexico. Caswell and Slocum didn't just compete with $400,000 race cars, they beat them.
For clarification, here are the official results of the race:
First off, it's unclear whether the "Rally America Mexico" class was allowed to drive over every stage in Rally Mexico 2010. Let's say they did for this example, because we don't know right now. In that case, Caswell managed to beat two local Mexican drivers who were driving Peugeot 206 XS's in the A6 class.
What's the A6 class? I can't seem to find much info, but it appears to be the equivalent of the modern R2 class (see here for more info on the R classes). The R2 class features 2WD cars with 1.4-2.0 L NA engines.
Alright then. So how much do these A6 cars cost? Hard to say since there very little info online. According to this site, a decent example should run for anywhere between $20K-$60K. Sure, that may be more expensive than $500 (again, which is misleading, since Caswell definitely spent way more than $500 to prepare the car), but it's a far cry from the "$400K" that the Jalopnik title would have you believe.
Second, what kind of drivers did Caswell beat here? Here's one, and here's the other. One's a local rally driver with not much info (but who will be competing tomorrow in Rally Mexico 2014, this time as the only driver in the lowest class), the other's pretty famous as a rock crawling competitor (famous enough to have a pretty extensive Wikipedia page). Both were the only competitors in the A6 class (the lowest class in the rally). Neither is a WRC, P-WRC, or S-WRC driver.
So you honestly can't say Caswell beat two WRC-level drivers here either, nor can you say he beat either of the lower level (P-WRC and S-WRC) championship drivers.
Again, is it still an impressive feat? Sure. But let's not get carried away here like Jalopnik did in its article and say he beat WRC-level drivers in $400K cars.
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Are you sure they meet federal emissions and are OBD compliant.
They do not and are NOT street legal in the U.S. for many reasons such as emissions compliance, crash test standards, lack of airbags, ESP etc... They are required to have functioning safety items like lights, signals, mirrors, horns etc.. to make driving them on public roads with escorts in between stages safer. They are no where near "street legal" and registerable in the U.S. or almost any other country/region for that matter though.
They do not and are NOT street legal in the U.S. for many reasons such as emissions compliance, crash test standards, lack of airbags, ESP etc... They are required to have functioning safety items like lights, signals, mirrors, horns etc.. to make driving them on public roads with escorts in between stages safer. They are no where near "street legal" and registerable in the U.S. or almost any other country/region for that matter though.
It would seem some might disagree, but what do I know.
Try reading the whole thing. They bring up scca rally etc. Guess what. SCCA isNOT WRC.. You think a 400-700 lb ft of torque 2.0 liter 4cyl Seat is street legal and emissions compliant for the U.S. ?? ohh thats right, Seats arent street legal or sold in the U.S. at all.
Do you ever read any of the links you post? SCCA cars are legal, WRC are not.
Actually I gathered many different opinions with nothing being absolutely clear, but it seems you've made a judgement. I'm apprehensive to say the question has been answered.
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