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as noted there would be ecm reprogramming that would be needed, along with a fair amount of wiring changes. what those changes would be i dont know as i have not looked at the wiring diagrams for the altima.
I am in the same boat. From the practical side of things it takes almost the same effort to push start as it does to turn a key but at least with the key I know where the keys are. As a fleet person you have no idea how much of a problem push start is-from lost keys that have fallen between the seats, vehicles left running by mistake but the doors locked with the fob inside, the increased costs of replacing the batteries in the fobs and everything in between. Push start is not new greater tec but rather it’s a marketing tool to make more money.
I am in the same boat. From the practical side of things it takes almost the same effort to push start as it does to turn a key but at least with the key I know where the keys are. As a fleet person you have no idea how much of a problem push start is-from lost keys that have fallen between the seats, vehicles left running by mistake but the doors locked with the fob inside, the increased costs of replacing the batteries in the fobs and everything in between. Push start is not new greater tec but rather it’s a marketing tool to make more money.
Push start is not a way to make more money. It's what most people want today. And our vehicles will not let you lock the doors with the fob inside. No new vehicle will. And if you walk away from a running vehicle, it alerts you to the fact. Most people have adapted quite well to push start. I think it's great. No keys to fumble or drop. As for the fob battery, one 2032 battery every few years is not going to break the bank. I buy them in bulk for less a dollar a battery. So less than two dollars for two fobs every two or three years.
I am in the same boat. From the practical side of things it takes almost the same effort to push start as it does to turn a key but at least with the key I know where the keys are. As a fleet person you have no idea how much of a problem push start is-from lost keys that have fallen between the seats, vehicles left running by mistake but the doors locked with the fob inside, the increased costs of replacing the batteries in the fobs and everything in between. Push start is not new greater tec but rather it’s a marketing tool to make more money.
I can totally see your point from the point of a fleet owner....
But as the owner of 1 car equipped with it....i'll never own a car with a regular key again. I've had keyless cars now for 12 years....love it.
On our Mercedes cars, you can take out the Start button, it just pops off. Underneath, you can insert the keyfob and turn it just like a key. It's for when the keyfob battery has run out, but if you didn't want to replace the battery, you could just use the keyfob like a regular key all the time.
I would think buying a fresh battery will be a LOT cheaper than the cost to custom install a keyed ignition system and reprogram the car's computer. (If doing that is even practical).
I would think that OP checked on the batteries before starting a new thread here
BTW:
Some cars are equipped with a means of starting the car manually, and some have a backup built into the key fob that work without a key. Even if your car has keyless entry, you may not have noticed that there's actually a key slot somewhere on the steering column. Use the key fob to push the START button. https://www.crestnissan.com/blog/201...ry-is-dead.htm
I had an issue that the dealer missed.. I kinda figured it out on my own after a little internet research. Not sure this would be your problem, but something to consider.
I'd get in my truck, turn the key.. Wind up with "Service Theft Deterrent System".. Remove the key.. Wait a few seconds, put the key back in.. Starts up fine.
Wound up that the problem was the door fob for my office I kept next to the key, and apparently it would interfere with the transponder in the key itself. Put the door fob at the far end of my keychain.. Not a problem since.
So.. if you have a gym membership that gave you a fob, or an office door fob or similar.. Make sure they're far enough away from your car fob. Supposedly nothing is supposed to interfere, but.. It happens.
The reason the dealer missed it.. you take a car in.. What do they do? "Need your keys.. No, just the car key".. So, I took the key off my keyring, now they don't notice that I have a fob next to the car key.
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