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Old 09-08-2015, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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You admitted to not knowing much about cars before 1980. Those who are familiar with them can tell you what they are by sight...no name of brand necessary. Cars need to be badged now as they all look alike for the most part.

I have an early 90's Cadillac; what car looks like it? It doesn't need a brand name badge on it. No car does....do they pay you to wear that around and advertise for them?

60s-70s cars...most can be named by sight.

How many 40s rods do YOU actually see on the roads? I see more from the 50s and up.

Geos were actually rebadged Suzukis.
That's because the US auto industry was building tanks instead of cars. The factories didn't get retooled to car production until about 1948. Then they sold cars like gangbusters through the early '50s because of pent up demand. Also, everyone was cash rich because of wartime rationing. During the war everyone had a job, but there was nothing to spend the money on because of wartime rationing. Your only choice was a used car, because they weren't making any new ones.

'30s cars were technological disasters. Flat head engines with valve guides that couldn't be replaced, mechanical brakes instead of hydraulic, and heaters/defrosters were an aftermarket item that you had to plumb in yourself.
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Old 09-08-2015, 02:58 PM
 
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That's because the US auto industry was building tanks instead of cars. The factories didn't get retooled to car production until about 1948. Then they sold cars like gangbusters through the early '50s because of pent up demand. Also, everyone was cash rich because of wartime rationing. During the war everyone had a job, but there was nothing to spend the money on because of wartime rationing. Your only choice was a used car, because they weren't making any new ones.

'30s cars were technological disasters. Flat head engines with valve guides that couldn't be replaced, mechanical brakes instead of hydraulic, and heaters/defrosters were an aftermarket item that you had to plumb in yourself.
And I can't see a 30's car without thinking of Nazi and Japanese armored cars.
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Old 09-08-2015, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Must bet the cars you are looking at.

The recent new and late model cars I have owned and experienced are so much better than the 80's and 90's, there really is no comparison. By and large, the cars on the market now are very significantly better than cars of just 10 years ago in terms of materials, fit and finish, and overall quality. (Aside from a couple exceptions).
Look at the exterior design of cars compared to 20 years ago. All cars, especially Asian, look angry for some reason. Chevy and Ford took it to another level of angry. That Corvair or a Karman-Ghia are refreshing in comparison.
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Old 09-08-2015, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Fading into nothing quickly


Seriously.
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Old 09-08-2015, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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I can't imagine going back to the junk in the 80-90's compared to cars today. They are 100 times better and last longer. Cars today go over 100,000 miles with no issues at all. I am at 135,000 with my Audi A4 and it feels and drives like new and I live in a horrible area for cars, Pittsburgh. Salt and potholes!

BS...a new Hyundai Sonnata would make you eat those words.
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Old 09-08-2015, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Yet the 1994 GMC Safari did, even though that was a design from 1985...
Seat belts work fine. the same people who want unisex restrooms in schools want airbags.
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Old 09-08-2015, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Ever watch an episode of Jay Leno's car show on youtube? His collection is very large and covers various important events in automotive history. If you watch him take his steam powered car out for a spin, you understand that it's less about comfort and more about that particular vehicles place in history as well as the preservation of what an owner had to know in order to drive such a car.

For me, the ultimate car to own is the 427 Cobra (built as a kit car). The curves of the body are beautiful and the raw power make the car practically undriveable for most people, but owning and driving that car is not about the features (because it has none) and it's not about the sophistication because it represents a time in performance car history when a huge motor in a tiny car won races.

I can also appreciate today's safety features and technological advances. The lightweight parts are for weight and fuel savings. They also help the car take turns better.

Watching police car chases from the late 70s and early 80s are always so funny to me. Those cars were terrible handling cars compared to today's 4 door sedans.


^^^ Same for Shelby Mustangs and the assorted GM cars you could get from Yenko, CoPo or Baldwin Motion.
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Old 09-08-2015, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Striving for Avalon
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Cars today (particularly luxury models) can nickel-and-dime you for electronic nonsense. Oh well.

-Auto transmissions long surpassed manual drivers in efficiency/reliability/whatever.
-When was the last time you heard of a car overheat? In my extended family, it was a late 70s Cadillac in 1988.
-100k early middle age. Even finicky Germans/Jags are doing 250k+. Never mind Japanese vehicles.
-The ability of a car's computer to monitor operation and log faults is mind-boggling. Not as much sleuthing needed by the mechanic.
-Barring hobbyists, who "needs" to be a weekend mechanic tinkering with the car?
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Old 09-08-2015, 05:53 PM
 
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Seat belts work fine. the same people who want unisex restrooms in schools want airbags.
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Old 09-08-2015, 06:35 PM
 
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I remember living at the mercy of car mechanics in the 1970s and 1980s. I couldn't believe anyone would sell such poorly built pieces of crap.

Today's cars are absolutely wonderful by comparison.

If you want soul, you'll have to learn how to restore antique vehicles. The closest to a vehicle with soul these days is BMW and Tesla, which are expensive. I'm happy to drive a reliable car and get soul in other aspects of my life.
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