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Old 11-11-2016, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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No. they are both motors by the definition of motor. The bottom one can also be called an engine in modern vernacular even though that maybe technically incorrect. Like many words, the use of Engine for motor has become so common, it becomes necessary to modify the language rather than correct the usage. This happens from time to time. engine is not widely accepted as an alternative to motor.

When cars first came into vogue, that was not the case. Thus all the manufacturers were founded as motor companies and still are. If they were "engine" companies, people would think they made locomotives, or later, fire trucks.
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Old 11-11-2016, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Birmingham
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I was taught that a motor has an outside of power such as electricity, water, hydraulics, air, etc. An engine generates its own source of power.

I am sticking with that explanation.
It comes from motorcar which is a more formal version of the word automobile. A motor powers a motor car so it is interchangeable with engine.

Think about this the next time you are down at the DMV.
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Old 11-11-2016, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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No. they are both motors by the definition of motor. The bottom one can also be called an engine in modern vernacular even though that maybe technically incorrect. Like many words, the use of Engine for motor has become so common, it becomes necessary to modify the language rather than correct the usage. This happens from time to time. engine is not widely accepted as an alternative to motor.

When cars first came into vogue, that was not the case. Thus all the manufacturers were founded as motor companies and still are. If they were "engine" companies, people would think they made locomotives, or later, fire trucks.
The typical automobile has an internal combustion engine.

When I hear someone use the phrase "motor," I automatically think of a 10-year-old who has not yet learned the proper language to use.
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Old 11-11-2016, 03:06 PM
 
Location: not normal, IL
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The typical automobile has an internal combustion engine. When I hear someone use the phrase "motor," I automatically think of a 10-year-old who has not yet learned the proper language to use.
Motor - a machine, especially one powered by electricity or internal combustion, that supplies motive power for a vehicle or for some other device with moving parts.
Engine - a machine with moving parts that converts power into motion.

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Old 11-11-2016, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Birmingham
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The typical automobile has an internal combustion engine.

When I hear someone use the phrase "motor," I automatically think of a 10-year-old who has not yet learned the proper language to use.
Yet english dictionaries say the "10 year old" is right.
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Old 11-11-2016, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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The typical automobile has an internal combustion engine.

When I hear someone use the phrase "motor," I automatically think of a 10-year-old who has not yet learned the proper language to use.
So when you hear general Motors and Ford Motor company you think they are ten year olds?

Then of course there is Delorean Motor Company, American Motor Company, Motorcycle,

Lots of ten year olds running around. Apparently you are the only adult in the the world. Lonely?
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Old 11-11-2016, 06:48 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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Do we really need yet another pissing contest?

Both sides are right. Yes, by strict dictionary definition, "motor" is not incorrect. But Fleet is also right in saying that it sounds dumb in real-world use in educated circles. It does.

The Ford Motor Company argument is extraneous and irrelevant. That is a name conceived in a different age and Delorean Motor Company is merely a derivation of that age-old name.
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Old 11-11-2016, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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Guys, let's quit bickering like a bunch of retired English teachers about "engine" and "motor" and get back to talking about our favorites amongst the prime movers of our vehicles!

For me, favorite is not just about hot rod engines, it's also about "old reliable" engines that just run for many miles with little trouble or attention, like the 1963 to about 1989 GM inline 6. Although these can be warmed up a bit using parts from outfits like Clifford performance. And they can be warmed up quite a bit without spending an insane amount of money. The result is definitely "something different".
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Old 11-11-2016, 07:21 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Y'know, in all my years of working on reciprocating ENGINE aircraft (VO-540, R-985, R-3350, R-4360, etc.) and "suck and blow machines" (J-34, J-79, JT-9D, PT-6 etc.) I don't remember ever hearing them called "motors"!

To further complicate matters, many hot dodders referred to their engines as 'mills'.

How To Build An Engine - Steps For Building Engines - Hot Rod Network

http://www.hotrodsandclassics.net/hotrodslang.htm
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Old 11-11-2016, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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So all these years I have been riding an enginecycle , NOT a motorcycle.
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