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Old 07-29-2017, 11:50 AM
 
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Fuel is dirt cheap in the US, compared to the average income at least.

I'm curious, what would happen if prices got up to the European level (~1.5 euros for 1 liter=~6 dollars per gallon) and stayed there for a long period of time, even indefinitely, would the preferred choice of vehicles shift dramatically from the V6's and V8' and trucks to hybrids and other 4-bangers? Would people still buy trucks for grocery shopping? What would happen?
Great post.

The radical difference in taxes is the only significant difference is global and US gas prices.

Exception to that being in places where land costs a lot of money like if there is a gas station in downtown LA they have to charge more to cover the capital investment of the land.

But that's a localized phenomenon.
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:03 PM
 
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I doubt it. For some insane reason most people in this country think bigger is better. They don't care that the monstrosities they drive are making our enemies in the middle east richer. They want to make up for shortcomings with a "dig me" behemoth.
Gimme a break! EPA/NHTSB pushed Americans into little cars they didn't want.. They slowly replaced the comfortable cars and station wagons they preferred with the SUV, now a favorite target of the name calling PC crowd. Must we all be of one mind?
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Old 07-29-2017, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Boilermaker Territory
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If something drastic happened like back to back cat 4/5 hurricanes in the gulf or the wrong middle east country gets angry and gas went back to $3-4 and stayed there, would there still be a strong demand for Crossovers, SUV's and Pick Ups or would this send people back to Full Size Sedans or the return of Station Wagons?
I prefer Subaru, and am awaiting the time when they will start making all electric vehicles with sizable driving ranges. I like vehicles that are well engineered, have great handling and cornering, high safety standards, powerful enough, and fuel efficient.
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Old 07-29-2017, 04:10 PM
 
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Try and tow a good size RV trailer with a Prius, Impala, Corolla, Kia, etc.
Oh, don't you know? They're bad for the environment. And driving them around just leads to another polar bear drowning! Your time would be better spent learning how to get by with just one square off your TP roll.
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Old 07-29-2017, 04:36 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Good luck getting a small sedan up the road to my property. This wasn't even really mud season yet either when photographed. 4 wheel drive and high ground clearance is a necessity where I live. Then add in needing to occasionally haul firewood and other things...
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Old 07-29-2017, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Boilermaker Territory
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Good luck getting a small sedan up the road to my property. This wasn't even really mud season yet either when photographed. 4 wheel drive and high ground clearance is a necessity where I live. Then add in needing to occasionally haul firewood and other things...
What would you say the minimum ground clearance needed for that type of road? I am familiar with many areas of the North Country and Northwoods, but generally stay away from dirt roads during mud season..
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Old 07-29-2017, 04:54 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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What would you say the minimum ground clearance needed for that type of road? I am familiar with many areas of the North Country and Northwoods, but generally stay away from dirt roads during mud season..
My f150 has about 9 inches of ground clearance and still on occasion bottoms out but manages.
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Old 07-29-2017, 06:09 PM
 
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So true.
Splashing $70K for a hybrid is foolish, I can literally buy a lifetime of gas for that money.
Nobody spends $70k on a hybrid to save money, they do it because they want to drive a $70k car that also happens to be a hybrid.

I drive a $56k hybrid and as you can imagine, fuel cost is immaterial to my life- I could have just as easily purchased the non-hybrid version of exactly the same car. I just happen to enjoy getting to work on electric alone, and I love the way hybrids drive (completely, 100% silent under 40mph under correct conditions). Makes luxury cars feel much more luxurious. My last car was a Lexus ES300h and now I drive an RX450h; they are just so much quieter than their gas counterparts in normal usage.

I couldn't care less about the $20 or so I save each month on gas, if it's even that much. My car does get awesome mileage compared to its gas counterpart, but it makes zero difference to my overall financial wellbeing- efficiency and silence are just two things I happen to enjoy as part of my overall list of desires when I'm buying a car. I really hope my next car is a Tesla.
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Old 07-29-2017, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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Good luck getting a small sedan up the road to my property. This wasn't even really mud season yet either when photographed. 4 wheel drive and high ground clearance is a necessity where I live. Then add in needing to occasionally haul firewood and other things...
Looks like you need to get some crushed asphalt or limestone hauled in there.
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Old 07-29-2017, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Wichita Falls Texas
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Yup. I've got my eye on a 78 C10. Regardless of gas prices.
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