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Old 08-06-2017, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Research Triangle, NC
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no such thing as 100% octane fuel. there is 100 octane fuel though, there is also 105 octane.

and by the way, 91 octane and 100 octane are NOT two different fuels, they are the same fuel with different octane ratings.

two different fuels would be gasoline and ethanol.


Or gasoline and LPG, which many trucks can be set up for from the factory.
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Old 08-07-2017, 04:11 AM
 
Location: Outskirts of Gray Court, and love it!
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My tractors will run on 2 different fuels - gasoline and kerosene, and they don't have a fuel pump at all!
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Old 08-07-2017, 09:32 AM
 
Location: SC
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Almost every performance car made in the last couple decades has a high octane "mode," it is just engine management mapping parameters. Many car owners use aftermarket chips or computers to take advantage of "tuner" specs, in other words the ability to use 100 octane is just a chip setting or a "retune." I think the fact that a manufacturer mapped this into the standard computer is not that special. Most probably don't bother because that fuel is not readily available so it would pretty much be a waste of effort for most drivers.

Others who do "bother" to map their cars for this gas don't bother to tell you about it with a "mode" indicator. That's just an unnecessary "look at me" light. Advertising.

http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2016/...-corvette-z06/

I'm not sure why R&T would go along with this claim it is the first factory car to use 100 octane. That's just nonsense.

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Old 08-07-2017, 01:14 PM
 
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Sure it can, I can switch between tunes to run 89,93 or 104. doesnt need 2 fuel pumps though
Get it to do a wheelie, then I'll be impressed
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Old 08-07-2017, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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These specs on the 2018 Dodge Demon are ridiculous - and awesome
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Old 08-07-2017, 08:37 PM
 
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ok we get it you are popping a healthy woody for this demon, that you probably cannot afford, and all you can really do is rub out a chubby while you drool over the pictures of the car.

you would probably faint dead away if you ever approached one in the showroom.
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Old 08-08-2017, 02:46 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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ok we get it you are popping a healthy woody for this demon, that you probably cannot afford, and all you can really do is rub out a chubby while you drool over the pictures of the car.

you would probably faint dead away if you ever approached one in the showroom.
I don't have to see them in the showroom, I can take a 20 mile drive to Auburn Hills Michigan and see them in Chrysler corporation World HQ parking lot. I'm a big mopar fan had a 1964 Dodge Polara in the 70's, I worked at their Warren Truck assembly plant in the late 70's early 80's. I have friends that still work for the company. And everyone on here who thinks that Chrysler is on its way out haven't a clue what in the hell they are talking about, Chrysler is making money they are taking over quality control for Fiat also. And who on here would not love to have a Demon or a Hellcat.
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Old 08-08-2017, 02:47 AM
 
Location: SC
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I looked at the specs page and I'm amazed that it has no seats - other than the driver seat; but they can be purchased for 2 dollars. Why would they do this? What does that make it? Essentially a race car for someone who doesn't want to be bothered - or cannot build their own race car? Is it a base for someone who wants to build a fast track car, to purchase and then modify? That would be a very expensive prospect and again, you could probably get more HP for less if you started with a normal streetable V8.

Over my lifetime, I have known a couple of guys who have built 9 second cars and drive them on the street. But they - both the cars and their owners - are a PITA to drive on the street with the engine (in the old days) being too temperamental to be anything but a handfull. And then there is the issue of what can you legally do with all that power on a street?

This is a one trick pony that will sit in a garage and be looked at and maybe once in a while it may go to a track. I suppose to some, that makes it worth the close to a hundred grand price?

Personally, if I could afford it I don't think I would want it because of the space it will take, the cost of the fuel it will eat, the fact that it is really a track car yet it is pre-BANNED at the track; this all leads me back to the conclusion that this is built really to sit in a garage somewhere and to provide Fiat with a lot of money for that privilege of taking up garage space.

Will it appreciate? I would think so... but again, only if it is never driven more than just enough to keep it's seals lubricated. Cars that are actually driven more than that really have too much HP and probably a low number of skilled owners - this tends to get them bent, and that lowers resale a bunch. There are probably better investments to be had, like bitcoins, gold, and silver.

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Old 08-08-2017, 03:02 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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I looked at the specs page and I'm amazed that it has no seats - other than the driver seat. So, what does that make it? Essentially a race car for someone who doesn't want to be bother - or cannot build their own race car.

It is a one trick pony that will sit in a garage and be looked at and maybe once in a while it may go to a track. I suppose to some, that makes it worth close to a hundred grand, but I also imagine someone who wants a 'real' race car will build one themselves for far less?

Personally, if I could afford it, the space it will take, the cost of the fuel it will eat do really make it a track only car, yet it is BANNED at the track. This leads me back to the conclusion that this is built really to sit in a garage somewhere and to provide Fiat with a lot of money for that privilege.
They are only going to build 3,000 for the 2018 production year, I assume that they are all ready sold also. It's a car just like the Mustang Shelby 350 GTR they also don't have a back seat.

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Old 08-08-2017, 03:11 AM
 
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I don't have to see them in the showroom, I can take a 20 mile drive to Auburn Hills Michigan and see them in Chrysler corporation World HQ parking lot. I'm a big mopar fan had a 1964 Dodge Polara in the 70's, I worked at their Warren Truck assembly plant in the late 70's early 80's. I have friends that still work for the company. And everyone on here who thinks that Chrysler is on its way out haven't a clue what in the hell they are talking about, Chrysler is making money they are taking over quality control for Fiat also. And who on here would not love to have a Demon or a Hellcat.
i am happy for you, as for who would not love to have a demon or hellcat, try me. i am sure they are fine cars, but they are far too expensive fr me to ever consider. i wouldnt consider a new vette, or shelby either. again they are fine cars, but far too expensive. for the money these cars cost, i can build vintage cars to do just about everything the new stuff does, and have money left over to buy insurance, gasoline, groceries, etc. why buy when i can build instead?
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