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I assure you that a 10-yr old S-class looks dated. It may be clean but it's dated. I agree that some cars age less than others. BMWs hadn't changed notably, other than getting bigger. The X1 looks like the previous X3. There's something about a new car that you notice.
Most cars today look funny. All the round corners and angled fascia. The bug eye head and tail lights. IF you removed the badges most people couldn’t tell one brand from another. A lot of older cars had style that sadly most cars today are lacking
I assure you that a 10-yr old S-class looks dated. It may be clean but it's dated. I agree that some cars age less than others. BMWs hadn't changed notably, other than getting bigger. The X1 looks like the previous X3. There's something about a new car that you notice.
The concept of things being "dated" - which I guess springs out of women's fashion and now HGTV - is one of the stupidest concepts I have had the misfortune to run into, late in my life.
My E30 M3 is "dated" - it's also worth roughly what it cost new, but in deflated dollars. The Biltmore House is "dated". A pre-64 Model 70 Winchester is "dated". A first generation Single Action Army Bisley model is "dated", as are the belt and holster that came with it. Hell, a P-51 Mustang is "dated". All these things are "dated" but there is nothing wrong with them, and a Hell of a lot right with them. Mr. Market has spoken, and all these artifacts are held in high esteem, and that means they cost a lot!
Saying something is "dated" is a way the Don Drapers of the world try to make you dis-satisfied with what you have, when there is no real reason to be so. If you bite on that asinine concept, you are a "fish" and deserved to be separated from your money.
Not really. Someone I work with just got a 2017 fancier trim Ford Edge for about $19,500 with about 45,000 miles-said she got a good deal because the car new mspred at about $40,000.
45000?? That's a lot of miles for a 2 year old car. $20k is a good dealer retail for that car average from $19500 to $24k. they add in all the bells and whistles, but when I buy a used car I look at base model, engine, condition and miles. To me, a 2 year old car been driven approximately 22500 per year, way over the normal average. Probably was a lease or rental with those kinda miles. Not worth that to me.
Maybe to you, but you are a car person.
I've owned many 10 year old luxury cars and most people haven't a clue.
That's what I'm getting at. A lot of people still see 08-09 luxury cars as nice and very new. You can get a Bentley Continental for the same price as an 5-Series now.
But then that raises the question, is the Bentley considered $200k nice or just $70k nice?
as OP, I personally go by what I paid. If I pay $50k for a late model S550, I see a $50k car. It's nice, I didn't pay a ton, but it's not the newest tech or design.
Now I know someone who strictly goes by MSRP. He paid $14k for a used low mileage 2013 Mercedes C class. He says its better than my 2017 Subaru because his original MSRP was $45k. So he pretty much goes around saying he drives a $45,000 car even though he paid less than what a new Corolla costs.
Difference is I brought my Subaru new for $30,000, paying nearly double and (in his eyes) getting lesser of a car). I assume what "matters" here is bragging rights. It's the type of car vs the amount of money spent on it.
I mean if I started going by his logic my $35,000 but $90,000 4-years-ago Maserati is a better car than his.
I assure you that a 10-yr old S-class looks dated. It may be clean but it's dated. I agree that some cars age less than others. BMWs hadn't changed notably, other than getting bigger. The X1 looks like the previous X3. There's something about a new car that you notice.
I completely disagree. It's kind of amazing that you would pick the Mercedes-Benz S-Class, which I think is one of the best agers in the industry. It's evolution is extremely gradual and its chassis turnover interval is relatively long.
The first photo is of a 2008MY and the second photo is of a 2019MY. You really believe those look radically different, and that the 11MY older looks very dated?
For the record, I've never discussed the purchase price or original MSRPs of any vehicles I have ever driven with anyone beyond close friends who have asked me specifically. It seems pretty gauche to me to bring it up, regardless if your car was pre-owned or new.
I completely disagree. It's kind of amazing that you would pick the Mercedes-Benz S-Class, which I think is one of the best agers in the industry. It's evolution is extremely gradual and its chassis turnover interval is relatively long.
Isn't it the S class that is the fastest depreciating car int he world? (maybe it was C class - is there a C class?). Whichever one it was it has most cars beat for depreciation by a huge margin. (in both $ and %)
when i buy a car, the only price that matters to me is the sale price. i only buy used cars. but i go beyond price, and look at the condition of the car itself, and then deal with the price.
Isn't it the S class that is the fastest depreciating car int he world? (maybe it was C class - is there a C class?). Whichever one it was it has most cars beat for depreciation by a huge margin. (in both $ and %)
I've heard that before as well, but it's very much a myth. The residual values on the S-Class are comfortably above 50% on 3 year/10k terms. The C-Class' residuals are even higher, sometimes breaking 60% for the same term. The lease residuals are the most important metric here since there is a very high propensity to lease them in the United States. Relative to the BMW 7-Series and Audi A8, it performs well on depreciation tables.
Isn't it the S class that is the fastest depreciating car int he world? (maybe it was C class - is there a C class?). Whichever one it was it has most cars beat for depreciation by a huge margin. (in both $ and %)
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