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Old 07-12-2019, 10:05 AM
 
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Regulators in California have made it plain diesel trucks will tow the environmental line. Recent legislation will make diesels disappear by 2050.

New regulations requiring existing diesel engines to be upgraded or renewed over defined time-lines have also been enacted in California. The expense of such legislation will have grave consequences in the trucking industry.

https://www.overdriveonline.com/new-...rucks-by-2050/

https://www.overdriveonline.com/carb...rting-in-2020/

My thought is the dirty diesel is what has built California. What's yours?
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Old 07-12-2019, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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Oh well. Start dumping shipments at the state line and let them figure out how to get it the rest of the way.
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Old 07-12-2019, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Weird how the trucking industry is always wailing about how everything will destroy trucking. Safety features for trucks were catastrophic, regulations on hours for drivers were catastrophic, now pollution regulations. The article posted is fake news. The actual bill says 80% reduction in emissions https://www.sfchronicle.com/science/...n-13674820.php
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Old 07-12-2019, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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Regulators in California have made it plain diesel trucks will tow the environmental line. Recent legislation will make diesels disappear by 2050.
Meh, by 2050 they'll have been replaced by fuel cell / electric and the truck driver replaced by a computer.
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Old 07-12-2019, 11:47 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Dirty diesel (as in fuel quality...... Cheap to refine). Is a USA problem. Europe has better fuel. Emissions would be cut by 80% If diesels ran on veggie, as Rudolph designed them.....

Room for improvement....even for 150 yr old combustion technology.

CARB has been out to kill diesel for decades.
CARB deliverables could be met in 6 months using conservation and alternative fuels. But then thousands of pencil pushers would lose their gravy jobs.
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Old 07-12-2019, 11:50 AM
 
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Default That's more then possible.

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Meh, by 2050 they'll have been replaced by fuel cell / electric and the truck driver replaced by a computer.

That's more then possible. I think your right on both counts.
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Old 07-12-2019, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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Meh, by 2050 they'll have been replaced by fuel cell / electric and the truck driver replaced by a computer.
Most likely CNG/hybrid rather than full EV.

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/gr...ad-of-electric
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Old 07-12-2019, 12:56 PM
 
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It's high time to replace a lot of diesel vehicles and 2050 is a long ways away. Perhaps the plan will change if/when diesel fuel evolves. As previously stated by StealthRabbit, the diesel engine was original designed to run on vegetable oil (peanut iirc). Since then we've seen fuels like recycled vegetable oil, biodiesel/blends, and HPR. So there's a possibility that diesel vehicles might burn cleaner fuel in the near future.

As the owner of an old TDI, Duramax, and 2 EVs, I can tell you the big impact of embracing an EV for a commuter/errand/road trip car. After buying our first EV to use as a commuter car we reduced our annual gasoline consumption by 1,000 gallons and diesel consumption by 200 gallons.

Tesla's Semi has been seen on the highway and at the Kettleman City Supercharger over the last month. If it can haul a load over 4 hours between charges, it just might replace a lot of diesel rigs.
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Old 07-12-2019, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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Regulators in California have made it plain diesel trucks will tow the environmental line. Recent legislation will make diesels disappear by 2050.

New regulations requiring existing diesel engines to be upgraded or renewed over defined time-lines have also been enacted in California. The expense of such legislation will have grave consequences in the trucking industry.

https://www.overdriveonline.com/new-...rucks-by-2050/

https://www.overdriveonline.com/carb...rting-in-2020/

My thought is the dirty diesel is what has built California. What's yours?

That's OK, by 2050 Cali will be so third world that there would be no sense in bringing a truck load of freight into the state anyway. Illegal aliens driving donkey carts like we see in Afghanistan will probably be the main mode of transport.
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Old 07-12-2019, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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With a thirty-year deadline and lots of other factors closing in, this is hardly a hysterical nanny-state ban.
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